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tha_farfetch
Personal Jesus
Peru
221 Posts |
 Posted - 04/02/2004 : 11:55:48
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I was wondering: Did anyone finally identified this song that was posted here a couple of years ago ?
FarFetch.
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Jason˛
Room at the Top
USA
595 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2004 : 00:51:45
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gazebo
Personal Jesus
Canada
212 Posts |
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2004 : 02:25:39
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I've been hoping for an answer for this song for about 2 years -- it's a great song. I can't believe nobody has recognized it yet. Maybe someday...
best,
Dan Coogan |
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MikeP
President Am I
USA
1520 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2004 : 16:33:52
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I did a little sleuthing on MusicStack.com and found one possibility: Romance At Eleven - "Stay" (1986). They were a Toronto-based rock band, but I have no idea if CFNY ever played it or if that clip originated from Europe. Anybody up north ever heard this band?
The style and production of the mystery clip fits in the '85-'88 period and reminds me a lot of Chris Rea.
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2004 : 17:50:36
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Mike:
I live in Toronto, and listened to 'NY from 80 to 90 religiously, and I can honestly tell you that I never heard that song on the station. It is the type of song that would have fit the station's profile in the first half of the 80's. Like you, I'd really like to know who this is as well. I've found a copy of the Romance at Eleven song, I'll order it and let you know if it's the one.
regards,
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2004 : 14:13:39
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I did a Google search for "Romance at Eleven" and found Walter Rossi's site
http://www.walterrossi.net/disc2.htm
1987-88 Recorded and produced 4th Louise Portal album Louise Portal (Disque Traffic)
PARTICIPATION (Arranger - producer - writer)
Produced Toronto Rock Group Romance at Eleven album Unidisc Records.
so I emailed Walter and asked:
> http://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=220
> Several people are trying to determine if this song clip is the song "Stay" by Romance at Eleven.
> Is it possible for you to confirm if this is the song "Stay" by Romance at Eleven.
Walter Rossi responded:
Hello Dan,
Yes, the song Stay was recorded by Romance at 11...Meanwhile there are lots of songs with the same title.
Good luck...thanks for writing..
Walter Rossi.
Of course that does not technically answer the question "is the song clip the song Stay by Romance at Eleven" -- so I emailed Walter again and asked him the follow-up question:
So is this song clip: http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3 the song "Stay" by Romance at Eleven?
He has not responded to the follow-up, though I do appreciate his response to the first email (it seems as if he is saying it's the same song).
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Also in the Google search I found this site http://dev.coolforever.com/m/browse.cfm/item/10120/
So I emailed the site owner with the same question and here is the response I received today:
Hi Dan, it's probably the right band as it's definitely a Canadian group (it has the "MAPL" logo on the label) -- songwriting credit is M. Christiano and it was produced by Walter Rossi in 1986.
Update... just sold it to someone in Ontario!
Hope this helps!
best regards
Kevin Lee c/o
Laurie Mercer
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So there you go -- seems like Mike is on the right track. I was just hoping for total confirmation on the question (which does not seem very difficult if you are familiar with the band and the song, one listen should verify the question)
-- and I hope David is the one that ordered the record and we will get confirmation that this is the song Stay by Romance at Eleven.
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gazebo
Personal Jesus
Canada
212 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2004 : 08:24:10
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Hi guys,
I sent the song to Roberta at www.finylvinylrecords.com and she said it is not by Romance At Eleven.
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Hi:
Unfortunately,this is not the same song at all. Thanks for trying...
Cheers!
Roberta
www.finylvinylrecords.com
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MikeP
President Am I
USA
1520 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2004 : 13:13:09
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| I guess the best we can hope for -- other than another obscurity guru happening upon this snippet -- is that this song was released as a single with "Stay" in the title somewhere. Since this originated on De Dini Devil's site in Germany, I suspect it's a European/UK artist. |
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MikeP
President Am I
USA
1520 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2004 : 15:16:36
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| Another possibility that I came across is Canton - "Stay With Me" (1986). It's a Stock-Aitken-Waterman production and likely an Italo-disco track, but I wanted to see if anyone has heard this song. They also had another single called "Please Don't Stay", which could also feasibly qualify. |
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 05/11/2004 : 16:55:00
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I emailed Roberta at www.finylvinylrecords.com asking if she had listened to the actual record and the song clip, for a final confirmation -- here is her response:
"I have a copy of Stay by Romance At Eleven. In no way does it resemble the song clip that was sent. Sorry, but I actually listened to both & they're different songs.
Roberta"
So we can rule out Romance at Eleven for the song clip.
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2004 : 05:38:46
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Dan:
What about contacting Rene at De Dini Devil on the chance he has more info on this song. If memory serves, this song was one of the first posted in his unknown song/artist section. It sometimes takes a while for him to update info on the songs in the unknown section, especially since he has stopped allowing d/l's from his site.
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gazebo
Personal Jesus
Canada
212 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2004 : 22:38:53
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Hi David,
I Sent Rene an e-mail and Just received this response from him.
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Hi Paul,
thanks for your mail. It's right that I don't update all details of my site
as usual as in the past (working & studying take a lot of time). On the
other hand I don't have any new information on that. It's definetly
broadcast by a German radio station but I can't say which station cos I
don't know the exact year (if it's 1984 it's probably "Hessen 3" and if it's
1986 it's probably "NDR 1"). The problem with the year is that I re-recorded
part of audio tapes later. The tape which include "Stay" has material
certainly from 1984 and other material certainly from 1986. The track is
exactly between tracks I can track down the year so for this track both
years may be right (but it can't be 1985). According to the style and type
of music I prefer 1986. Is it a German singer? Do you hear any accent? Till
late 80's most German singers are recognized outside Germany as German
singers cos it's just a second language you begin to learn when you are 11
years old. From the late 80's German music gets out of this "amateur
section".
You may add this information on the message board.
Ciao René
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2004 : 08:42:09
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Hi Paul:
Good to hear from you again. Well, it was worth a try to contact Rene. BTW, I've been able to locate a couple of copies of "Call Me Lucky", as well as a copy of "The Drowning Man". This song however, looks as though it will not be solved anytime soon.
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gazebo
Personal Jesus
Canada
212 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2004 : 16:28:15
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Hi David,
Let's hope someone in Germany might come across the song and solve it.
I will send you an e-mail.
Luis/tha_farfetch-- found this on Gemm, but the seller never e-mailed back.
SECOND TIME AROUND
JET
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EYAL
Personal Jesus
121 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2004 : 14:06:28
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WHAT ABOUT THE FULL VERSION OF THE SONG?????
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gazebo
Personal Jesus
Canada
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2004 : 23:11:26
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I emailed Rene the following message (on 10/19/04) -- haven't heard back yet.
"Hi René,
Well I love the song "Stay ... The Second Time Around" since hearing it on your web site and appreciate the higher quality mp3 sample (1:27 in length) (http://www.dedinidevil.de/Stay_longer.ddd).
http://people.freenet.de/DeDiniDevil/wanted.htm
And there has been a lot of discussion on the NW outpost about the song:
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=324
I'm wondering if we can pay for a complete mp3 of the song Stay (The Second Time Around) and just keep waiting to eventually find out the name of the group that recorded it?
Personally I'd be willing to pay $10 for a complete mp3 of the song at 160 or 192. You could hold the money in an account for the band if it is ever discovered."
Anybody else want in on this deal?
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edited to change the old link below for the new forum link above.
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1344 |
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Sean
Room at the Top
2658 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2004 : 11:09:56
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MikeP
President Am I
USA
1520 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2004 : 11:34:45
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| Dan, I too would certainly help contribute towards a higher or at least complete MP3 of the song. Keep us informed if you make any headway. |
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Sean
Room at the Top
2658 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2004 : 13:25:18
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| This is such an interesting song to me now. The fact that it sounds like a song which we should all know but none of us knows it is so cool. We've got all the New Wave Gurus hunting up and down the internet for this. I think whomever can come up with the ID should be crown the King of New Wave for a week. :) What an awesome song! |
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gazebo
Personal Jesus
Canada
212 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2004 : 16:14:25
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Dan, Rene usually checks his e-mails on weekends,i'm sure he will respond soon.
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2004 : 16:56:19
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Well I've not heard back from Rene --
I emailed him at his email address listed on the site and it was returned: Over quota
----- The following addresses had permanent delivery errors
So that does not boad well.
I sent the same message to the web master address and have not heard back yet either. |
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2004 : 00:34:57
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Rene emailed me today:
Hi Dan,
Sorry but I can't help you. I put the song on the site just the way I have it on an old tape. I recorded the song a little bit late so it's not complete. And the sound quality didn't depend on the mp3 but on the quality of my old tape.
Ciao RenŽ
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Well, I guess we really do need someone to recognize the song. |
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2005 : 10:53:11
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2005 : 07:33:27
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Ive become obsessed with the short clip of this song (apparently Im not alone)since seeing it here. Last night I was looking through some of my old vinyl because I, as well, decided this song had to be Icehouse. I may quit my job and devote my life to finding this song.
Update:
The more I listen to it, the less it sounds like the singer from Icehouse. It does sound like a band Ive defintiely heard though, I just cant pinpoint it.
BTW there was a band called Cheating Ace that had a song called Second Time Around in 1985, but I doubt its them from the description of the band. |
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2005 : 09:28:21
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I am surprised that this one still hasn't been solved. For the length of time it's been posted on various sites, you'd think somebody would have an answer by now.
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yellowsky
Running Up That Hill
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 10:54:26
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| Well, I cannot download the song to hear it but I know in 84 or 85 there was a song called, "Stay" by Andre Cymone. He use to play with Prince or The Time. |
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 11:38:16
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quote:
Originally posted by yellowsky
Well, I cannot download the song to hear it but I know in 84 or 85 there was a song called, "Stay" by Andre Cymone. He use to play with Prince or The Time.
I'll send a copy to you yellowsky.
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yellowsky
Running Up That Hill
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 11:58:45
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| Thanks eight6! Well, rule out Andre! But has anyone heard Andre Cymone and if so, did you like it? I did! |
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SomebodySomewhere
Room at the Top
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2005 : 07:16:41
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| My buddy thinks this is a group called Modern Vision. I don't know them from Adam, and I don't know the song, either, so I wouldn't recommend tracking down their catalogue on his account. I like it, though. Just needs to be sped up a bit. |
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 05:29:19
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quote:
Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere
My buddy thinks this is a group called Modern Vision. I don't know them from Adam, and I don't know the song, either, so I wouldn't recommend tracking down their catalogue on his account. I like it, though. Just needs to be sped up a bit.
I give up. I can't find anything about this band.
Keith
BTW Arent you glad I took your advice about not trying to track them down on his account?? |
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
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SomebodySomewhere
Room at the Top
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 07:06:55
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quote:
Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors
He may be on to something:
http://www.musicstack.com/item/7458996/modern+vision/stay+_fsz_+she's
http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364/modern+vision/stay
Did he come up with Modern Vision from memory or from a web search? If it was from memory, I bet he nailed it.
Not from a search. He was a club DJ in the '80s who used to spend a lot of time in Europe picking up records (plenty of which weren't released here). After I sent the clip his way, he said he's heard it before, and thought the group's name was Modern Vision or Modern Visions, but he couldn't be sure. I did the search and spotted a Modern Vision with a 1985 single "Stay / She's Waiting," and the pieces would seem to fit, but he's mixed things up before...
The one thing working in our favor is a Poésie Noire (a group I'm vaguely familiar with) website which contains a gig list that shows the two bands played concerts together in the mid-'80s. Poésie Noire had a sound very much similar to this song. |
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
6268 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 07:51:20
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 09:33:52
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At least that is a fresh direction to go in. The trail has gone cold on this song a few times now.
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 13:30:57
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quote:
Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors
I did e-mail them asking if it was still in stock. I guess that's the first step.
I just emailed the 2 sellers and asked:
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Hi CDExpress,
http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364/modern+vision/stay
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay
item Number: 9382835 era
132744
bside : she's waiting belgium pict sleeve 7\"
Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3
We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.
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Hi Black Rhythm Records,
http://www.musicstack.com/item/7458996/modern+vision/stay+_fsz_+she's
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay / She's Waiting
Label: TOUCH 85 901
Item Number: e65826
Release Country: BEL
Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3
We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.
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SomebodySomewhere
Room at the Top
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 06:08:40
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That's probably the best way to do it. Are sellers usually cooperative like Roberta, or are a lot of them all just, "Buy it and you'll find out."? Because I just saw that the single I spotted at erarecords.com is no longer in the catalogue as of today. So somebody put a hold and/or an order on it. And, well, hopefully it was a hold, because don't shoot the messenger, ya know!
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 07:22:39
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I emailed ERA and asked if it was still avaialable and someone named Kees emailed me back and told me it was sold last Monday. Hopefully someone here bought it and will rip it to mp3. I would think it would be a giant coincidence if someone else bought it, out of nowhere!
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 14:14:55
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan Coogan
I just emailed the 2 sellers and asked:
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Hi CDExpress,
http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364/modern+vision/stay
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay
item Number: 9382835 era
132744
bside : she's waiting belgium pict sleeve 7\"
Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3
We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.
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So we will see if they are cooperative.
UPDATE: 7/17/05
Here is the response from: info@cdexpress.com
Hello Dan,
Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.
Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse
ROCKHOUSE RECORDS BV / CDEXPRESS.COM
PAMPUSLAAN 67
1382 JM WEESP
HOLLAND
TEL (31) (0) 294 - 460548
FAX (31) (0) 294 - 460547
EMAIL: INFO@CDEXPRESS.COM
WEBSITE: HTTP://WWW.CDEXPRESS.COM
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My response to them:
Thanks for Nothing... You've been no help what so ever.
(And yes, I actually did send the email with that response)
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 14:20:25
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quote:
Hello Dan,
Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.
Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse
Well, they are in Holland so you actually have to translate that. What they actually said was:
Hello Dan,
Thanks for email.
Sorry but we all stood here and discussed it and decided that none of us wants to walk over to the turntable and put that record on.
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
6268 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 14:22:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Crimsor
quote:
Hello Dan,
Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.
Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse
Well, they are in Holland so you actually have to translate that. What they actually said was:
Hello Dan,
Thanks for email.
Sorry but we all stood here and discussed it and decided that none of us wants to walk over to the turntable and put that record on.
LOL! They have it listed as a special order so it's not in stock. If you look at their fill rate it's 71%. They suck ass. We're better off not dealing with them anyway. |
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
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SomebodySomewhere
Room at the Top
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 05:15:17
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quote:
Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.
I guess that answers that question.
The buddy who came up with Modern Vision is British, and he doesn't know who Dagaband is. Go figure. With that said, this song doesn't exactly strike me as "heavy metal"...
http://metalarchive.com/showband.php?id=5965
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eight6
Room at the Top
6685 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 06:09:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan Coogan
quote:
Originally posted by Dan Coogan
I just emailed the 2 sellers and asked:
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Hi CDExpress,
http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364/modern+vision/stay
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay
item Number: 9382835 era
132744
bside : she's waiting belgium pict sleeve 7\"
Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3
We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.
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So we will see if they are cooperative.
UPDATE: 7/17/05
Here is the response from: info@cdexpress.com
Hello Dan,
Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.
Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse
ROCKHOUSE RECORDS BV / CDEXPRESS.COM
PAMPUSLAAN 67
1382 JM WEESP
HOLLAND
TEL (31) (0) 294 - 460548
FAX (31) (0) 294 - 460547
EMAIL: INFO@CDEXPRESS.COM
WEBSITE: HTTP://WWW.CDEXPRESS.COM
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My response to them:
Thanks for Nothing... You've been no help what so ever.
(And yes, I actually did send the email with that response)
so, Strike One...
Hey Dan:
Many of these locations don't keep their inventory on site. I've run across this many times, esp. with sellers in the U.K.: most say it has to do with the size of their shop. High volume items in store, obscure stuff in the warehouse. I've had many vendors pull records to check a b-side or track listing on request; I've even had one seller in Australia research and purchase a record from another vendor for me.
Rockhouse is notorious for their lack of customer service as well as listing things thay no longer have, or must order from a distributor AFTER you pay for an item. They are a poor example of an online seller IMO, and I wouldn't order from them.
Just my 2 cents.
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
6268 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 06:44:03
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 07/18/2005 : 07:05:50
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quote:
Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors
Black Rhythm Records says they have it in stock so maybe they will do as Dan requested and id it for us.
Motors:
BRR is a good outfit, at least from my experience. If memory serves, I've ordered about 6 items from them.
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2683 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 01:31:53
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ok, a couple of replies on the Modern Vision record:
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order@blackrhythm.com
Subject: Re: Modern Vision 7" - Stay / She's Waiting
Date: July 19, 2005
To: Dan Coogan
Hi Dan,
Sorry, not the same.
Kind regards,
Mike
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From: info@cdexpress.com
Subject: Re: Modern Vision record - Stay
Date: July 18, 2005
To: Dan Coogan
Hi Dan
Modern Vision - Stay
Gone sold... sorry!
With my best wishes,
Frances
http://www.cdexpress.com
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So CD express never had the record to begin with and blackrhythm.com says it's not the same song. |
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SomebodySomewhere
Room at the Top
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2005 : 05:07:24
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Bindyree
Running Up That Hill
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2005 : 15:44:57
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This song has also wrapped its tentacles around me and is slowly sucking out my nutrients.
I don't remember where I saw this, but did I see somebody suggest that it was done by a band called 'Story Structure'?
Arrghgh!...
Brin-Marie McLaughlin
http://bindyree.diaryland.com
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Stay (The Second Time Around)
