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so who's winning ? bush or kerry ???

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Postby SwampThing » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:38 pm

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Postby Jimbo » Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:55 pm

"Journalists seek the truth. Carlson seeks ratings."

Unfortunately, he is not the only one.
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Postby MikeP » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:58 am

Well, it certainly isn't the Iraqi people who are winning:

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6354133/" target="new">Study: 100,000 Iraqis died in war, aftermath</a>

"Most individuals reportedly killed by coalition forces [air strikes] were women
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Postby SwampThing » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:16 am

These lryics seem somewhat fitting to the previous post...

"...If they send in the special police
To deliver us from evil and keep us from peace

Then won't the words sit ill upon their tongues
When they tell us justice is being done
That freedom
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Postby Jimbo » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:42 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MikeP[/i]
<br>Well, it certainly isn't the Iraqi people who are winning:

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Postby MikeP » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:54 am

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I'm really suspicious of this study for a number of reasons Mike. It looks like they were starting with unconfirmed data and then m
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Postby Jimbo » Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:52 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by MikeP[/i]
doublespeak issuing forth from the Bush camp.
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Postby Klaus Von Konrad » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:27 am

Example of Bush doublespeak:

If he were a straight-talker:

We did not find WMD.

What he said:

We indentified dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities.

Hooray! We invaded the country and found the dreaded WMDRPA!
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Postby MikeP » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:42 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Jimbo[/i]
<br><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr he
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Postby Jimbo » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:02 am

Before I go further Mike, could you check your e-mail?

Thanks.
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Postby marie3 » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:46 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
<br>These lryics seem somewhat fitting to the previous post...

"...If they send in the spe
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Postby Jimbo » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:47 am

What I was saying in my earlier post (that was then eaten in a database glitch) was that [i]The Lancet[/i] has a bit of a history of playing fast and loose with some of the data coming out of Iraq.
Back in 2001, The Nation (even KVK will agree with me th
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Postby SwampThing » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:00 am

[quote]even KVK will agree with me that they are far from being a tool of the Bush Administration<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockqu
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Postby Klaus Von Konrad » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:10 am

This site has a reasonable death count number with ominous graphics as a bonus:

http://iraqbodycount.net/
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Postby MikeP » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:15 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Jimbo[/i]
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