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BigManRestless wrote:Isn't track 12, disc 2 listed as I Ran (12" Mix) just the album version again? It has the same running time.

Yup! ... same version as on the album (again). I don't know how many times this is released on CD by now *lol* ...

Disc 2 Track 06 is the 1983 12 Inch Version of (It's Not Me) Talking and has nothing to do with this release because it's a re-make of the first single from 1981. If it would have appeared on a Listen Deluxe Edition as a bonus, I can understand. That's why I think the other albums won't have this kind of Deluxe treatment because that song was placed here.

What's missing is the UK LP mix of I Ran which timed at 4:55min. I think it may have appeared on cd once before a long time ago.

And the original Bill Nelson version of (It's Not Me) Talking is listed as the remix, I think?

What a mess.

I'm encouraged to hear the main album itself sounds really good, as it has been screaming out for a decent reworking since it's first appearances on CD. Are the first several bonus tracks on disc 2 of the same quality?? I had to drastically adjust EQ on those tracks with the cherry red release (most especially on Pick Me Up which was the b-side of "I Ran" on the USA 7" and I listened to it as often as the A-side hehe).

Unfortunate that the 12" version of "I Ran" seems to appear twice. In the USA, this mix replaced the original album version (which did appear on the 1982 USA vinyl LP) on the 1988 CD release.

How is the packaging? Any liner notes or booklet?

Fred Taghon wrote:I'm encouraged to hear the main album itself sounds really good, as it has been screaming out for a decent reworking since it's first appearances on CD. Are the first several bonus tracks on disc 2 of the same quality?? I had to drastically adjust EQ on those tracks with the cherry red release (most especially on Pick Me Up which was the b-side of "I Ran" on the USA 7" and I listened to it as often as the A-side hehe).

Unfortunate that the 12" version of "I Ran" seems to appear twice. In the USA, this mix replaced the original album version (which did appear on the 1982 USA vinyl LP) on the 1988 CD release.

How is the packaging? Any liner notes or booklet?

The so called 'digipack' is not really as such, it's way too small and made out of cardboard where the discs are stuffed in. However, there IS a booklet; more of a recent Mike Score interview and singles covers of I Ran and Telecommunication in it. The pictures are good quality and nice to have.

I do a lot of photoshopping of album covers for the albumartexchange.com website (and myself of course - I'm "retrogroove_art" there), so I always appreciate quality album art, especially with new reissues.

I was at our local record store the other day and happened to spot sealed copies of AFOS and was surprised how washed out they looked, then realized they were the NEW reissues from BMG! My own 1982 copy looks way better, I'm sad to say! The coloring on the new LP sleeve is too light and the whole thing has a yellowish hue to it. I'll still be picking up the CD set because what I've heard sounds pretty good, but the quality of the artwork is disappointing.

Listen to the opening of "Messages" and then listen to Editors' first two albums and you know where they stole their sound from. Love those two Editors records (and nothing since after the original guitarist left the band) but facts are facts. :-} Another band that ripped AFOS was She Wants Revenge. AFOS music with Phil Oakey singing...

ABOATES wrote:Listen to the opening of "Messages" and then listen to Editors' first two albums and you know where they stole their sound from. Love those two Editors records (and nothing since after the original guitarist left the band) but facts are facts. :-} Another band that ripped AFOS was She Wants Revenge. AFOS music with Phil Oakey singing...

never heard of she wants revenge, looked them up:
Adam Bravin, Justin Warfield, Scott Ellis, Thomas Froggatt

i don't see any phil oakey in there.

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I was describing the way the lead singer of She Wants Revenge copied Phil Oakey's singing style. Surely you have heard of The Human League, yes?

negative1 wrote:

ABOATES wrote:Listen to the opening of "Messages" and then listen to Editors' first two albums and you know where they stole their sound from. Love those two Editors records (and nothing since after the original guitarist left the band) but facts are facts. :-} Another band that ripped AFOS was She Wants Revenge. AFOS music with Phil Oakey singing...

never heard of she wants revenge, looked them up:
Adam Bravin, Justin Warfield, Scott Ellis, Thomas Froggatt

i don't see any phil oakey in there.

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Thanks for your insight oh negative 1.
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ABOATES wrote:I was describing the way the lead singer of She Wants Revenge copied Phil Oakey's singing style. Surely you have heard of The Human League, yes?

i collect a lot of the human league related stuff, and thought it might be a side project i never heard of.

they don't sound like him at all.

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I did not say the band sounded like Human League, I said the singer copied Oakey's vocal style.
There is no way you can listen to this track and not hear that. It is obvious...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MSZ6g_sYvg

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2006/ ... .shopping6
"...Warfield grumbles like the Human League's Phil Oakey..."

https://www.amazon.com/Valleyheart-She- ... B004N44SOS
"A 10 track gem of alternative style indie pop contains mainly easy-to-listen-to romantic songs with a male vocalist that makes them sound similar to Human League of the 80's! Thanx!"

The music is more like Interpol meets a Depeche Mode cover band. Surprised you've never heard of them. A shame because there have been so many great artists and albums over the past 25 years... just for kicks, here are some 2000's era bands/artists that loosely fit in the 80's/New Wave/Post Punk genre that I would think at least some of the folks round here would enjoy:

Foals
Interpol
I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness
Sufjan Stevens
These New Puritans
Patrick Wolf
Editors
James Blake
Magnetic Fields
Future Islands
Preoccupations
Jack Penate
Bat for Lashes
The XX
St. Vincent
British Sea Power
Bloc Party
Death Cab for Cutie
The Postal Service
The Horrors
the Killers
Late of the Pier
LCD Soundsystem
MGMT
TV on the Radio
She Wants Revenge
Wild Beasts

so many more...

Sorry i don't think this guy sounds like Phil Oakey in any way at all.

She Wants Revenge was a "band" that tried to ride the Interpol wave, and singer Justin Warfield definitely attempted to channel that sound.

He was much more authentic as the vocalist for Bomb The Bass on this banger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJDoSmkFOc