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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 1:16 am**

Did her antics ever bother you? Did they turn you off to her music?

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 1:29 pm**

She might be a little loopy, but she has a beautiful voice.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 1:54 pm**

I agree, 100%.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 2:05 pm**

Ol' Blue Eyes was right. She should have just sang her songs (and yeah, she does have a great voice) and kept her political leanings to herself.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 2:09 pm**

She's a little nuts, but I love her music.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 2:13 pm**

I agree with that 100% too, Hut. But it still did'nt turn me off to her music. I llike to judge artists on the basis by which they came into my field of perception in the first place: their music. I really could'nt care less about their political, religious or social leanings. Same with actors. "Just do your job and be quiet" is what I say when they start the babble [:D]

edit:
By the way, I voted "Nah. I never gave a damn." I can overlook an artist's self importance when judging their music. Usually. If they're good. Which Sinead is.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 2:17 pm**

How could she go wrong with a Prince song? She could have been much bigger than what she was. Her political outbursts damaged her career. And it wouldn't have hurt her to throw away the Lady Bic. She would have been kind of pretty with a full head of hair.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 2:25 pm**

^^^ Here I go again.....[i]I agree.....100%[/i] ^^^

I saw her in the East Village once, in NYC, just walking on the street. She was kinda cute in person.

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Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 2:59 pm**

She may be a nut looking for a squirrel but she has a beautiful voice. I love it when she teamed up with Shane McGowan on the song The haunted. [;)]

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 6:58 pm**

Who?

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 8:37 pm**

Her first two albums still hold weight and I think have gotten better with repeated listens. She was a talent (maybe still is, I have been lazy about listening to last ten years of output) with a great voice and a knack for songwriting.

It's not unnatural for creative minds to have an opinion on things (don't YOU?) and let's face it - - she paid the price. Her career deep-sixed as soon as she did the SNL bit. Probably worse for her than a whupping from Sinatra.

That said, I imagine her antics did keep me at a distance from her afterword (as well as most listeners). Sometimes it's hard to separate the two (image and music).

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 8:58 pm**

WTF does what someone does outside their art have to do with the artistic merit of their work?

Anyone who can't appreciate good work because they're distracted by the artist's life is nuttier than the artist is.

Oh and Sinatra was an organized crime loving, wife beating scumbag, but I've always enjoyed his work. But he had no room to be making value judgements on anyone else.

Posted: **Tue May 02, 2006 12:18 am**

Being a recovering Catholic myself, I actually like her antics better than her music. She lost me musically at her first album. So I didn't vote as that was not an option. I will agree with Frank Sinatra on one thing--she does seem like she's a real bitch.

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Posted: **Tue May 02, 2006 12:39 am**

The Sinatra Group

(Voiceover)
The Sinatra Group. An unrehearsed discussion of current issues in the recording industry. With panelists Sinead O'Connor, Billy Idol, 2 Live Crew star Luther Campbell, Steve Lawrence, and Eddie Gorme. And now here's the moderator, Frank Sinatra.

Frank: Issue number one: censorship. They got records with the labels now, people gettin' arrested. What the hell's going on? Sine-aid O'Connor!

Sinead: Well, I think it is a bloody shame that freedom of expression is suppressed in this country-

Frank: Yap,yap,yap. Billy Idol!

Billy: I think they're all a bunch of tight-assed old farts-

Frank: Get a haircut. Luther Campbell!

Luther: Well, man, I had my run ins with censorship all year-

Frank: Can't understand a word.

Luther: Said, I was censored all year-

Frank: You don't know what censored is, junior. Censored is being dumped by Columbia because Mitch MIller doesn't like the way your career is going. It's having million-dollar pipes and nowhere to play 'em. Am I right, Steve and Eydie?

Steve: Yes, you are, Frank.

Eydie: Absolutely, Frank.

Frank: You bet I am. Next issue: this crap with MTV. With the nudity and all. What is this crap? Sinbad O'Connor.

Sinead: Well, I think it's bloody awful. But it's typical of entertainment in a male-dominated society.

Frank: Boo-hoo. You had me and then you lost me. Billy Idol.

Billy: I think it's great-

Frank: Shaddap. Luther Campbell.

Luther: Well, that's my bread and butter, man-

Frank: Once more around, pal, Sounds like pops and buzzes from here.

Luther: I said, that's my bread and butter, man.

Frank: No, your'e wrong schoolboy. You don't need to work blue. You'll never play the big rooms with that crap. Ask Redd Foxx. You don't need the blue stuff, kid, you got talent.

Luther: But I don't have talent.

Frank: You've got it, kid. You listen to me. You got a Ben Vereen quality, I can't put my finger on it. Take the high road baby.

Luther: I swear man. I don't have any talent. None. This is all I got. Tell him, man.

Billy: Yeah, he sucks.

Sinead: He's not talented.

Frank: No. Bob Goulet-that's not talent. You got talent, you got a Dionne Warwick/Falana kind of thing goin'. Steve and Eydie.

Eydie: Oh, you're right, Frank.

Steve: Absolutely. He's great.

Frank: Of course he is, you brownnoses. Look at you, you're just swimmin' in my wake. Issue number three: This bald chick., what's with her head? Let's start with the chick. What gives cue ball? I'm looking at you, I'm thinking fourteen in the side pocket.

Sinead: I can't believe you're talking about my hair with all the bloody starvation and suffering in the world right now.

Frank: Come on, swing baby. You're platinum. Billy Idol.

Billy: I think she's really quite attractive.

Frank: Check out his papers. Luther Campbell!

Billy: You watch it, mate!

Frank: Easy, baby. And what's with the sneering crap? Don't do that to the people. They wanna like you. That's what killed Dennis Day. Contempt for the audience. Luther Campbell! What about the chick's head?

Luther: Be honest, I don't care about the head. I like the butt.

Frank: I hear you, baby. Forget the head. Put a bag over it and do your business. Am I right, Steve and Eydie?

Steve: You bet, Frank.

Eydie: You know it, Chairman.

Frank: You were a little slow on that time.

Steve and Eydie: Sorry, Frank.

Frank: Forget it. You're all right. You could pick up a check once in a while...

Eydie: Frank, that's not fair...

Frank: Shut up. Okay, issue number four: Milli Vanilli. What is this
faggot crap? Uncle Fester!

Sinead: I don't understand the question.

Frank: I tell you what you better understand. Next time you see Old Glory ridin' up that pole, you better sing that anthem, darling. You're lucky you're a chick, or you'd be nothin' but a stain on the road and a crew cut! Our founding fathers went to the mat for you, baby!

Sinead: It's not my flag. I'm Irish.

Frank: Oh. Well then, stay off of this stuff! (Mimes drinking) That's the curse of you people. Billy Idol!

Billy : I forgot the bloody question.

Frank: I'll give you the question. What the hell's with this devil stuff? This whole black mass, and the whole six-six-six, coffins thing. Don't think the Big Man ain't keepin' score, baby. He put you in the penthouse, and He can kick you down to the gutter with these two!

Steve and Eydie: Hey! Geez!

Frank: Shut up, you wastes of space. Just be glad you get to hang with me.

Steve: You're right, Frank

Eydie: Sorry.

Frank: It's your choice. You can open for me at the Meadowlands, or
headline at the Tick Tock Inn. Okay, Luther!

Luther: I think Milli Vanilli got what they deserved.

Frank: Can't understand a word. Next issue: Rita Hayworth or Ava Gardner. Who would you rather nail? I disqualify myself, since I've done them both.

Billy: I think you're a bloody stupid old fart.

Frank: You're all talk blondie! You want a piece of me? I'm right here.

Billy: Don't provoke me, old man.

Frank: You don't scare me. I got chunks of guys like you in my stool!

Billy: All right. I'll rip your head off.

Frank: Steve-go kick his ass!

Steve: What?

Frank: You heard me!

Eydie: Do it, Steve.

Steve: Huh? Well, okay.

Billy: You got it! {He punches Steve in the gut}.

Frank: Next week, the Grammy Awards. Where the hell is Vikki Carr's
album? Bye-bye. Keep the hand up, Steve!

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Posted: **Tue May 02, 2006 3:16 am**

I loved [i]The Lion and The Cobra[/i] but didn't care at all for [i]I do not Want...[/i]
I haven't listened to anything of hers after that, and I'd have to say that her SNF antic contributed to that.

Hutter - thanks for posting that. I thought that was one of the funniest skits ever.

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