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Top Bands, Top Albums - KRAFTWERK

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 5:32 am
by hutter
You choice and your comments as to why?
I've left off their first four albums (Organization, Kraftwerk 1, Kraftwerk 2, and Ralf & Florian) because they're only available as bootlegs, and were not all that good, and The Expo 2000 Remixes (as it was basically a one song CD, remixed every which was but loose) and Minimum Maximum (their "live" album).
Why was Kraftwerk not first, Blir? Or Devo, or Gary Numan? For shame!

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:18 am
by rotator
Close call 'twixt Man Machine and Computer World, but the robots take over with a tidier album, and originality at there backs... (by the time Computer World came out, Kraftwerk was already being eclipsed by other electronic upstarts)

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:19 am
by hutter
[quote][i]Originally posted by rotator[/i]
<br>...by the time Computer World came out, Kraftwerk was already being eclipsed by other electronic upstarts.
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SACRILEDGE!!!

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:23 am
by rotator
see DMs "A Broken Frame" Rational Youths 'Cold War Nightlife' OMDs "Architecture and Morality" ---give up Hutter,.? say uncle???

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:25 am
by Bitter Almonds
[i]The Man Machine[/i], of course. [i]The Mix[/i] doesn't count for me since it's a compilation of some of their past work. It's a great compilation, but not a bona fide album with new material.

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:26 am
by hutter
What can I say...I just hate how Kraftwerk is underappreciated, considering that electronic music (not to mention hip hop) would have turned out much different without their innovative music. Hell, there's plenty of electronic albums that I feel are better listens than Kraftwerk...but I'm going to play the role of a old fuddy duddy and say once again, "Sacriledge!!"

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:29 am
by hutter
[quote][i]Originally posted by XXX[/i]
<br>[i]The Man Machine[/i], of course. [i]The Mix[/i] doesn't count for me since it's a compilation of some of their past work. It's a great compilation, but not a bona fide album with new material.
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Uh...it wasn't a repackaging of old tracks. Kraftwerk spent several years in the studio remaking their old songs for The Mix...it was new stuff, albeit remakes of their old tunes. It counts. Sorta.

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:30 am
by rotator
Hey, you're preaching to the altar boy, if you know what I mean (...?) I sing the praises of Kraftwerk all day long.....You'd probably be angry if I said that Orbital's 'Brown' album is better than any Kraftwerk record, but then, I guess deep down I'd be lying to myself....

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:33 am
by rotator
[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
Kraftwerk spent several years in the studio remaking their old songs for The Mix...it was new stuff
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super dated sounding......Kraftwerk just moves too slow (meaning their laboured work ethic)...although there is some cool stuff on the Tour De France soundtracks "album"

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:35 am
by Barmy
Whatever happened to the Kraftwerk remasters that were announced months ago?

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:38 am
by Bitter Almonds
[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by XXX[/i]
<br>[i]The Man Machine[/i], of course. [i]The Mix[/i] doesn't count for me since it's a compilation of some of their past work. It's a great compilation, but not a bona fide album with new material.
[/quote]
Uh...it wasn't a repackaging of old tracks. Kraftwerk spent several years in the studio remaking their old songs for The Mix...it was new stuff, albeit remakes of their old tunes. It counts. Sorta.
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http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=am ... q6ztu4a~T2
It doesn't count for me as an album of new material... and amg agrees.

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:45 am
by hutter
AMG is run by schmucks...recording a song, even if it's one of your own, constitutes a new recording. New song? No...but the tracks on The Mix were different enough (and in some ways better) from the originals. No matter what AMG says, The Mix was a original album, albeit a unusual approach to a alternative to a greatest hits package.

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 7:47 am
by hutter
[quote][i]Originally posted by Barmy[/i]
<br>Whatever happened to the Kraftwerk remasters that were announced months ago?
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I'm wondering the same thing myself. Knowing Kraftwerk, they probably nitpicked the packaging and will have it ready sometime around 2036.

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 8:07 am
by rotator
I've been on a Kraftwerk tear as of late...read the last 'unauthorised' biography, and I purchased a bootleg DVD of all their tv interviews -official videos etc etc. What I have gathered is that Kraftwerk is the strangest band in Rock history, and easily one of the best. Hutter, meaning (ahem) the actual Hutter[:p] is a real oddball....dead serious about wanting to 'be' a robot.....

Posted:
Fri May 12, 2006 8:19 am
by hutter
Ol' Ralfie has been on that robot kick from waaay back...just in case you missed it, here's a article from Starlog I posted a couple of months back.
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10331