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.....about this music that just grips me so. Could it be that the older we get the more nostalgiac we get? It's not that I'm like one of those 60s or 70s burnouts I so didn't want to be like when I was a kid. I thought it was sad how the clock just stopped moving for them in terms of music. I listen to alot of new music too. But nary a day goes by that I don't listen to some New Wave.

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I totally get what you are saying.
It grips me too. New Wave is constantly being played at the KYYX household. It is just plain good music. It makes me feel good. Sure, there's a lot of nostalgia. I know all the words, all the chords, etc. It's familiar. But it also just speaks to me. I'm a sucker for great melody and great synths, and NW has that.
Sometimes I don't know what it is either--it's hard to define. NW just has this magical quality to me. The experimental aspect, the unusualness, the synths, the quirkiness...it all just grabs me and speaks to me.

My father once said to me that im listening to New Wave because im still young during my time. When i grow old, ill shift to other, more "mature" genre like jazz or classical music. But you know what, im pushing 40 right now and i still crave for New Wave. In fact, i let my son listen to it and tell him how great my time was and it will go on forever.

In fact, i told my wife to play New Wave music in the background while im being cremated. Sad NW music of course. [:D]

I get the same feeling of nostalgia when it comes to the 90s brit pop era... which reminds me of my childhood. It's what it gets more played here (except for NW, of course but I was a baby during the 80s). Oasis, Pulp, Blur... sort of bring back nice memories.



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I still love listening to NW & punk and I enjoy discovering the music I missed while I was obsessing on all the great KROQ tunes and the bits of punk I picked up here and there.

Here's the other thing I love: some of the bands have aged pretty well (just like me). I like the fact that when I put on Echo & the Bunnymen's "What Are You Going to Do With Your Life", a lot of the lyrics and sentiments apply to my adult life. I can throw on "The Cutter" when I feel like singing at the top of my lungs in a very adolescent fashion or I can put on "Get in the Car" from WAYGTDWYL when I'm feeling like too much of an adult.

The best part is that NW & punk music still sounds great even though I no longer have any of the angst that I had when I first heard it.

Absolutely. New Wave and Punk still gets serious play at my house. I listen to newer stuff. The White Stripes, The Strokes and Louis XIV, among others, also get play.
I think that, for me, most of today's music lacks anything that grips me. I can't identify with gangsta rap and most of the rock of today has de-evolved into a form that almost resembles pre-punk arena rock. This is just my opinion.
It's interesting that you mention your parents, empyrean. I heard the same story from mine. What they failed to understand is that they listened to what they listened to when they were in their teens and twenties but, somehow, it was more mature. We haven't gotten "stuck". We're just waiting for music that will move us again.

I hate to break it to everyone, but we ARE like those sad old 60's burnouts we all vowed to not become. Sure, I like some new stuff just like everyone else, but face it, we all try to "explain" New Wave to younger people. Just like our teachers in high school tried to "explain" the 60's.

I am not proud of this fact, but I have acknowledged it. I have yet to embrace it.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>I hate to break it to everyone, but we ARE like those sad old 60's burnouts we all vowed to not become. Sure, I like some new stuff just like everyone else, but face it, we all try to "explain" New Wave to younger people. Just like our teachers in high school tried to "explain" the 60's.

I am not proud of this fact, but I have acknowledged it. I have yet to embrace it.
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Ha! I second that,bro. When Devo is used for advertising FN mops and the AARP is using new wave tunes in their ads (anyday now "Depends" diapers will be using Joy Division's "She's Lost Control"), then that's as good a sign as any that the "Oldies" stations will soon be playing our favorite new wave tunes, just like they used to play the doo-woppy 50's crap in the 80's. It just our turn to grow old, then die, like everyone else in human history. And thats the way it is and we like it! We love it!

Flabbertyfloop!

BTW: It's gonna be funny in a sick way when we head to the old folks home and most of the toothless wrinkled up geezers will be covered in tatoos and scars from old body piercings, shaking in their walkers to the beat of the Ramones and the Cramps on old fogies social night. Yeah, that'll be a funny sight.

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I don't try to explain dick to anyone. It's for me. Same with the 90s and 00s music. Fuck off what anyone else cares. It's great shit, plain and simple, as is a lot of newer stuff.

I think this music is close to my heart because it's the soundtrack to some major moments in my life.

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Part of me thinks my affection for this music has to do with nostalgia. I mean, I certainly don't feel the way I felt about songs I like today they way I felt about songs I liked when I was a young teenager. Music today sounds incredibly derivitive to me. Nothing put out today challenges me to listen. (Although, listening to the radio today is quite a challenhe!) I've tried to give current groups a fair shake, but I always end up saying that it was done before--and better! Don't know if you're familar with She Wants Revenge, but even before I got halfway through it I was so turned off by how formulaic and cliched it sounded. It's as if the members got together and decided to make a paint-by-numbers New Wave record, which they did. It's the difference between Velveeta and a fine chedder. Even though the sound had nothing new or innovative to offer, this is the stuff that is considered edgy. New stuff sounds flat and prosaic to me--and I listen to everything. Hip-Hop, country, "punk", electronica, "alternative", none of these genres have the personality, texture, nor the integrity that I could find on any hit station in the early to mid 80s. Bottom line is that New Wave is just one of the last great things to come out of the music scene--and that was 30 years ago!

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>I hate to break it to everyone, but we ARE like those sad old 60's burnouts we all vowed to not become. Sure, I like some new stuff just like everyone else, but face it, we all try to "explain" New Wave to younger people. Just like our teachers in high school tried to "explain" the 60's.

I am not proud of this fact, but I have acknowledged it. I have yet to embrace it.
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Eh, I don't know about that. I've never found a reason to explain anything to anybody now or then. That's just always been a life philosophy to me - for everything. I just do my thing. I know trying to explain something to someone who doesn't ask is a fruitless labor. Why bother? Now if they ask.....

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<br>I think this music is close to my heart because it's the soundtrack to some major moments in my life.

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I totally can relate to that statement...I've found most of the time I can place a song in the year it came out is when I can remember what was going on in my life at that time. Sometimes its not even a significant event, just a happy moment in time but I remember the moment and the song that was playing....not sure if the music made the moment even happier or vice versa.

They were great days....the music was my life...74% of the music I listen to now, is what I listened to back then...

I feel sad for the kids nowadays that have almost nothing to set themselves apart from the other kids...everything today is just a big mishmash... buy their style at the mall...and another thing...get off my lawn, damn kids!

Maybe we're being nolstagic but I'm convinced...

THERE WAS NEVER ANOTHER ONSLAUGHT OF FRESH, NEW MUSIC like the initial punk / new wave period.

Not just the volume of bands, but also the volume of styles: punk, 2-tone, electronic, goth, you name it.

THink of any arguable alternative to my statement...

early Rockabilly
Nuggets-era garage bands in the 60's
early British Invasion
Grunge
Techno
even "Next Wave"!!

...These are all good movements in themselves, but none had the depth of bands and styles found in that '79 to '82 era.

But I agree with Blir - at this point I'm done trying to "explain" this crap to anybody.