New Wave Outpost Forum

I mean Nirvana and that ugly depressing shit killed 80's Hair Metal, did it do away with 80's New Wave too? If not, what did?
God I HATE grunge and all it stood for and looked like.

"You just pick a chord, go twang, and you've got music." ~ Sid Vicious

I think it did.To me,grunge sent new wave underground.With no real source to listen to new wave, we had no choice back then but to listen to it.. the radio station and music tv stations capitalized on the grunge fad..I don't hate all grunge but i do associate most late 90's music and early 2000 with grunge..If we had sirius radio and all the other internet radio stations , it could have had a chance to survive..Only recently, in the last 5-6 years , am I really liking music again..

Didn't mainstream dance music (things like stock aitken waterman productions, hip-hop, etc) signal the end of new wave?

I look at grunge as more an evolution that sat between the rock and metal scene. I actually think grunge was rather important to music history in some ways.

Fluffy dance music and other non-instrument based bollocks on the other hand...

new wave music killed itself off by the early 90's.

it ran out of steam, and most groups had done the
majority of their great work in the early to mid 80's.

grunge was just another musical phase that came along
on its own.

there wasn't much left to the new wave movement by
the late 80's anyways.

the vast majority of music that i like and listen to
was made in 1980-1985. there's very little after that,
that is worth listening to.

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In our place, aside from Grunge, Rap and Hiphop killed New Wave. I agree with negative. Every music genre has its time. New wave had it until the early 90's although some new bands came along like those from Sarah but is not as popular in my country as the new wave band of the 80's.

Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby and Nirvana became a hit spawning a lot of grunge bands to become popular like Pearl Jam, Blind Melon, Radiohead etc.

But i think its slowly returning though in another genre like Indie, Shoegaze and Dream Pop. A lot of those bands sounded like new wave. Northern Portrait is like The Smiths. Azure Blue is OMDish etc.

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Empyrean...I agree, it is coming back in a different form .Only in the last few years have i been really loving music again..

Nirvana is the single most important band in the history of popular music. Their sound changed the musical landscape so much, that Oingo Boingo and Depeche Mode dipped into the grunge pool, much like when Kiss, Rod Stewart and Paul McCartney did with Disco in the late 1970's. I don't care for Nirvana, as I don't own any of their music and have no immediate plans to do so. New Wave still exists here on the New Wave Outpost and until we decide to stop posting about our favourite music genre, it will never die. I'm off to listen to more of that "fluffy dance music and other non-instrument based bollocks" I like so well. Death to VH1 Classic and their Metal Show. MTV no longer plays any music videos, so why haven't they changed their name? Oh, I forgot.. they did. Mausoleum Television.

Anyone who states Nirvana is any sort of important band should be smacked. They were crap from birth and destroyed music for many, many years, and it's only partially rebounding now. And I don't care how cruel it sounds, and I'm sure I said it before, I celebrated when that greasy loser ended it, but it was too late anyway because the clone spawn were endless. Kurt Cobain was a talentless idiot and would be a worldwide joke if he didn't blow his head off. If Michael Jackson would have snuffed it at the time of Thriller then he would have died an untarnished legend instead of becoming the punchline he did. Same for Whiney Houston. I have endless disdain for Nirvana, Cobain and Grunge. It makes my blood boil.

Have a nice weekend!

Nirvana is the single most important band in the history of popular music.

Also, if you like your plan you can keep your plan.


But seriously, not just New Wave but Rock as a genre is dying. There are more great NW bands from the 80s still around than there were great Rock bands of the 90s in total. Ask your average teenagers who Arctic Monkeys are and you're liable to get a blank stare. Seems at the same time, Rap and Country have gotten exponentially more popular. NW has gone more underground which is perhaps where it always truly belonged.

maybe this should go in the 'genres and styles' forum.

here is a good commentary about the rise
of electronic music and acceptance in the USA:
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http://www.electricity-club.co.uk/from- ... nic-music/

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Sorry Rubellan, I forgot to finish the statement. Nirvana is the single most important band in the history of popular music, because they destroyed it.

Name another group/artist that changed/ruined music so much.

Negtive 1, Excellent article. It makes a number of observations that sing true.

"Things went fine, up until the start of school, the world was still okay." -Nina Hagen

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Name another group/artist that changed/ruined music so much.

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You mean besides the Beatles ?

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well said Rubellan..Music really sucked after the grunge fad of the 90's and early millennium.Without any real music stations to listen to i basically gave up on music..Thank god innovation of the internet gave people a better choice of stations to listen to and is reviving new NEW WAVE or call it what you want,chill wave, Alternative.....I am loving music again and it is no longer underground..It sit on my computer on Sirius radio on my kindle..Music is changing and for the better..its fun Again!!

here's an interview with the pet shop boys
about the rise in popularity of electronic music:
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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inth ... klash.html

they also talk about how there might be a backlash to it.

there are also some video clips from their
alan turing project.

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The Pets Shop Boys are one of the few bands that didn't dip into the grunge pool. I'm talking about 1993, when Very came out and PSB were the only New Wave artist that stayed true to the course.

"Things went fine, up until the start of school, the world was still okay." -Nina Hagen