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Propaganda - A Secret Wish - CD of original vinyl release?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:09 pm
by schwenko
Which cd release contains the exact contents of the original vinyl album release/ I.E. the original track listing, versions, lengths etc

a link to the discogs.com entry would be great

Re: Propaganda - A Secret Wish - CD of original vinyl releas

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:15 am
by Jim2
I took this up as a challenge and dove into this certain I could accomplish this request.
I own three versions of the vinyl LP, including the original UK release and not a single CD version.
If you consider how many versions on CD there are you'd think one pressing would just copy the vinyl LP and call it a day.
All the information here is from Discogs.
Many versions list song lengths shorter or longer by a second or more, which may be the times taken from the CD or from a Discogs member copying that version from a previous release, which if the original was incorrect, so is that version as well.

Most CD versions of A Secret Wish have the opening track "Dream Within A Dream" clocking in at 9:08, when the original LP version is only 8:04
Jewel is often replaced with a version lasting 6:22 instead of 3:09.
The most unusual occurrences (to me) are the insertion of a 4:52 version of Frozen Faces between tracks 4 (Duel) and 5 (P-Machinery) and Dr. Mabuse(First Life) moved from track 7 to the end of the CD with a 10:41 version titled simply "Dr. Mabuse", replacing the final vinyl LP track "Last Word / Strength To Dream" altogether.

The closest CD release to the original UK LP vinyl release are these two US reissued CD's, which fail only that the last track "Last Word / Strength To Dream" is listed as one second shorter.
Please note that the CD back cover scans on Discogs of these two releases show incorrect track listings that list the similar variations mentioned above, which is why I never picked up a copy on CD because they showed the incorrect tracks.

1987
https://www.discogs.com/Propaganda-A-Se ... se/1158905
1990
https://www.discogs.com/Propaganda-A-Se ... ease/14782

I hope this answers your question schwenko.

Re: Propaganda - A Secret Wish - CD of original vinyl releas

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:13 am
by schwenko
Jim2 - thanks for doing the heavy lifting! So many versions! Turns out that I have this one:

1990 https://www.discogs.com/Propaganda-A-Se ... ease/14782

Amazing that they couldn't even get the track listings on the cd itself and the booklet to match!


Jim2 wrote:I took this up as a challenge and dove into this certain I could accomplish this request.
I own three versions of the vinyl LP, including the original UK release and not a single CD version.
If you consider how many versions on CD there are you'd think one pressing would just copy the vinyl LP and call it a day.
All the information here is from Discogs.
Many versions list song lengths shorter or longer by a second or more, which may be the times taken from the CD or from a Discogs member copying that version from a previous release, which if the original was incorrect, so is that version as well.

Most CD versions of A Secret Wish have the opening track "Dream Within A Dream" clocking in at 9:08, when the original LP version is only 8:04
Jewel is often replaced with a version lasting 6:22 instead of 3:09.
The most unusual occurrences (to me) are the insertion of a 4:52 version of Frozen Faces between tracks 4 (Duel) and 5 (P-Machinery) and Dr. Mabuse(First Life) moved from track 7 to the end of the CD with a 10:41 version titled simply "Dr. Mabuse", replacing the final vinyl LP track "Last Word / Strength To Dream" altogether.

The closest CD release to the original UK LP vinyl release are these two US reissued CD's, which fail only that the last track "Last Word / Strength To Dream" is listed as one second shorter.
Please note that the CD back cover scans on Discogs of these two releases show incorrect track listings that list the similar variations mentioned above, which is why I never picked up a copy on CD because they showed the incorrect tracks.

1987
https://www.discogs.com/Propaganda-A-Se ... se/1158905
1990
https://www.discogs.com/Propaganda-A-Se ... ease/14782

I hope this answers your question schwenko.

Re: Propaganda - A Secret Wish - CD of original vinyl releas

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:09 pm
by geoffolehane
Damn, I love Propaganda.

Re: Propaganda - A Secret Wish - CD of original vinyl releas

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:26 pm
by obs
Wow, a year ago!

Get the 2CD version from 2010 and call it a day. Custom program the track selection so it plays the vinyl version.

I think all US/CA CD pressings are the vinyl version of the album.