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Postby Mathman » Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:47 am

I was always a hard worker, sometimes doing too much. In grad school we knew that getting two or more Cs meant we would be on probation in the program - and possible removed. That just reflected the overall higher quality of student in graduate math, I think.

I work with students every year who seem to believe that not studying is the way to go, not realizing this only works if the material is already in there. Studying will not erase what you know, but can help on some concepts and on memorizing specific knowledge. Of course, if some knowledge is not there to build on, no amount of studying is going to make someone suddenly understand days or weeks worth of work in just one night of cramming.

KYYX - Ohio requires a masters and extra coursework to remain licensed to teach. There is not money offered by the state for this, though some districts and colleges offer support for courses/workshops to meet the goal. The state does offer some academies in specific areas, like middle school science or reading, at no or minimal cost, but that is about it.
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Postby Mechi » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:35 am

OP: It takes 7 years here to get the title. And yes, the hours are as long as mentioned. Of course, I would like and try to study more.. but sometimes it's really hard... when you see that many of your friends party all weekends or have enough money to get their asses out of their houses and move out. And classes start in mid March and end in December.
I've got an 84 in my Molecular Bio test. That's more than I expected.
I'm not sure if I'm taking physiology.. though I'm interested in it. I do have to take Genetics cos it's not an optative.


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Postby Opera Prima » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:10 pm

7 years!! [:0] It's 5 years here and it seemed too much for me... for example in England you need only 3 years to get your title (I think they directly start doing a speciality, like your "beloved" Genetics) When do you specialise in a certain field?

So you finish university when you're 25,... Don't worry for not being able to move out, here 7 out of 10 people under 34 still live with their parents because salaries are low and houses really expensive. Of course, I still live with my parents.

Congratulations for your 84 in Mol. Bio. [:)] I really liked that subject, it's very interesting. And as they were compulsory, I had to take Genetics (also very interesting but quite hard since most people failed the exam) and Physiology (actually I had 2 different subjects, one for plants and other for animals, and I didn't like them a lot).

I know it's really hard to be studing all the time and for so many years, but as somebody stated before, do it now that you're young. Sometimes I think now I wouldn't have the energy to study and spend so many hours at university as I did (and I was just an average student, I can't think of how many sleepless nights spent the ones that got As and Bs in all subjects)
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Postby WolverineSyr » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:33 pm

I really like Mathman's post. It's true that passing without studying doesn't equal some magical combination - the information already has to be there & you have to like what you're learning.

I recently had a short test on genetics - which I was afraid that I wasn't "getting." I tried to study, but the simple concepts all were getting jumbled together. I decided to "just wing it" and see what happened. I ended up getting a 94 on the test simply because I calmed down and realized I can retain things from lectures and notes & that going to the opposite end - overstudying sometimes does more damage. I have no idea what I'm going to do with my math classes since I hate it with a passion!

I find that rewriting notes, doing online activities, and helping some of my lab partners, helps me learn so much better than reading the textbook.

I have 2 weeks left to this particular class - I can't believe it's flown by so quickly! I also figured that even if I bomb my final, I can still get a B in the class. Of course for me, being an irritating over-acheiver, I have to go for the A.
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