Now we are being respectful to the Taliban?

[hutter]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
<br>So are we all ready to drop the Geneva Conventions, Rule of Engagement and the UN? If our enemies don't adhere to these standards, what's the point, right? Can a civilized nation, following all the general acceptable rules of civility win a war gainst the uncivilized?

Hutter, you think we should kill em' all?. How can we tell a Taliban fighter from just a regular Taliban supporter? Is there a difference? Does it matter? Is the battle for hearts and minds winnable?

I think these are all valid questions, and we should have decided the answers long before we engaged.

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While we're figuring out everybody's motives, our boys are being killed. Here's the motive, Sherlock: the arabic muslims see us as infidels and wish us death and an eternity in hell. Meanwhile, the loonbats think that hugging a terrorist or terrorist supporter (is there a difference? NOPE!) will win their hearts and minds.

You can try to see things through a kumbaya perspective, and in a perfect world, I'd be right there with you. But it's not a kumbaya world, and those people want us DEAD. What are we supposed to do...give them chance after chance to kill us, just so we can claim to take the high moral ground?

The taliban and nearly every islamic nation promotes the supresion of free thought. The women are treated as less than animals. The female children are treated worse, and the boys are raised to hate. For their souls own good, maybe their death would be preferable to their growing up as hatemongers, which would certainly condemn their souls.

No easy answers, but far as I can tell, it's come down to them or us. Unlike most loonbats muslim apologists, I vote for us.

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[SwampThing]

[quote]Sherlock: the arabic muslims see us as infidels and wish us death and an eternity in hell.[/quote] This has been known for quite a long time, I sure hope this isn't news to anyone. I guess the only issue I have with the statememt is do you mean all of them, a large pct. or just the fringe? Different strategies are required depending on the answer.

So If I'm hearing you correctly we should abandon the higher moral ground (Geneva, Rules of Engagement).

The battle for Hearts and Mind is a Bush strategy, and as you far as I can tell you believe that is a flawed approach. So looks like our boys were setup for failure.



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[hutter]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
<br>[quote]Sherlock: the arabic muslims see us as infidels and wish us death and an eternity in hell.[/quote] This has been known for quite a long time, I sure hope this isn't news to anyone. I guess the only issue I have with the statememt is do you mean all of them, a large pct. or just the fringe? Different strategies are required depending on the answer.[/quote]

The silence of the majority of so-called sensible muslims speaks volumes. If they won't take a stand, then all we can do is assume that they agree with their radical brothers.

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So If I'm hearing you correctly we should abandon the higher moral ground (Geneva, Rules of Engagement) [/quote]

Unfortunately, yes.

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The battle for Hearts and Mind is a Bush strategy, and as you far as I can tell you believe that is a flawed approach. So looks like our boys were setup for failure.[/quote]

Yep, that's what it looks like. Politicians of both parties are too busy playing games. They should let the military do what it needs to do, and stay the hell out of the way.

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[stella]

I think there was a point when we could have won the hearts and minds of the muslim people. If not that we could have destroyed them from within with material goods and western television. Now though, kill them all and let allah sort it out seems reasonable. Send them all to paradise. The higher moral ground is just a construct of our religious past.

So far as the Geneva Conventions they only apply if both sides restrain themselves. One side breaks the contract that's it.

[drsevrin]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Now though, kill them all and let allah sort it out seems reasonable. Send them all to paradise.
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Does that include Peter Murphy and Cat Stevens?

[hutter]

[quote][i]Originally posted by drsevrin[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Now though, kill them all and let allah sort it out seems reasonable. Send them all to paradise.
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Does that include Peter Murphy and Cat Stevens?
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ESPECIALLY Cat Stevens. I'll never forgive him for recording "Father and Son".

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[drsevrin]

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by drsevrin[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Now though, kill them all and let allah sort it out seems reasonable. Send them all to paradise.
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Does that include Peter Murphy and Cat Stevens?
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ESPECIALLY Cat Stevens. I'll never forgive him for recording "Father and Son".

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[:D][:D] LOL!! Yeah, I should have thought twice about that one. Hopefully you'll spare Murphy, though.