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by **i_like_lectric_motors** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:45 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Peter Venkman[/i]
 Hey, I wouldn't mind being Carrot Top. Lucrative telephone deal, seeing the US on tour, your choice of prize college-girl poon. La dolce vita.

[i]"Sometimes I want to die in my bed,
All I can think about is "When are we leaving?",
Everytime I think of you I want a cigarette,
Man chooses himself, hero with a thousand faces,
It's the third night and the walls are shaking"[/i]--Tuxedomoon, "Desire"
[/quote]

Good point and you can add completely ripped to the list. Have you seen him lately? He must have gotten sick of getting heckled or something:

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by **Peter Venkman** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:16 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
 Some thoughts about Nirvana.

Based on what I've read via biographies and music mags Kurt would probably agree that they (he) were overrated. He seemed genuinely perplexed how Nirvana received so much fanfare while his favorite bands such as Sonic Youth and the Melvin's only had a cult following. [/quote]

In my opinion, unlike Sonic Youth and the Melvins, Nirvana was basically underproduced classic rock--and that's not a critique. Sonic Youth's music was too self-indulgent and dissonant; the Melvins were too sludgy and atonal, the Pixies were too one-note. Nirvana, however, was catchy and fluid. Take "Smells Like Teen Spirit"--it's basically "More Than A Feeling" stripped down and given angry lyrics. That helped them catch on; that's why they succeeded where their predecessors failed.

Besides, Nirvana connected with disaffected, depressed teenagers in a way that Sonic Youth and the Pixies never could; I was a disaffected, depressed teenager at the time, so I know what I'm talking about.

[i]"Sometimes I want to die in my bed,
All I can think about is "When are we leaving?",
Everytime I think of you I want a cigarette,
Man chooses himself, hero with a thousand faces,
It's the third night and the walls are shaking"[/i]--Tuxedomoon, "Desire"

by **SwampThing** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:43 pm

[quote]Nirvana, however, was catchy and fluid. Take "Smells Like Teen Spirit"--it's basically "More Than A Feeling" stripped down and given angry lyrics.[/quote] Yes, great observations.

by **Frank_Chickens** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:34 pm

One for The Monochrome Set.

Any band who can completely rip-off "Jerusalem" in "Jacob's Ladder" and then have the cheek to claim their own songwriting credits needs a good talking to.[:(!]

--

"As chairman of the Cradle of Filth fanclub I'm the most insensitive man in Britain, but even I can see there's tension there"

by **hutter** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:02 am

ANY hair metal/pop metal band. They can't be disrespected enough.

by **Mechi** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:36 am

I have to say it... REM is great. Sure, some of their albums are better than others but they always leave some really good songs.
Their stuff in the 80s was really avant-garde and in the 90s, they produced some of the best pop songs ever.
Think:
Orange crush
It´s the end of the world as we know it ...
Losing my religion
Everybody hurts
What´s the frequency Kenneth?
Daysleeper

Many bands would kill just as to have 6 songs as good as that.

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by **SwampThing** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:43 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Mechi[/i]
 I have to say it... REM is great. Sure, some of their albums are better than others but they always leave some really good songs.
Their stuff in the 80s was really avant-garde and in the 90s, they produced some of the best pop songs ever.
Think:
Orange crush
It´s the end of the world as we know it ...
Losing my religion
Everybody hurts
What´s the frequency Kenneth?
Daysleeper

Many bands would kill just as to have 6 songs as good as that.

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~myirwin/JD_Montage2.jpg">

[/quote] Yes, but those 6 songs are negated by "Stand", "Radio Song" and "Shiny Happy People".

by **Mechi** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:49 am

Those who say that don´t like Shinny Happy People...

... really like it but are afraid to admit it. [;)]

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by **hutter** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:49 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by SwampThing[/i]
 [quote][i]Originally posted by Mechi[/i]
 I have to say it... REM is great. Sure, some of their albums are better than others but they always leave some really good songs.
Their stuff in the 80s was really avant-garde and in the 90s, they produced some of the best pop songs ever.
Think:
Orange crush
It´s the end of the world as we know it ...
Losing my religion
Everybody hurts
What´s the frequency Kenneth?
Daysleeper

Many bands would kill just as to have 6 songs as good as that.

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~myirwin/JD_Montage2.jpg">

[/quote] Yes, but those 6 songs are negated by "Stand", "Radio Song" and "Shiny Happy People".


[/quote]
Can't argue with that.

by **SwampThing** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:53 am

[quote]Those who say that don´t like Shinny Happy People...

... really like it but are afraid to admit it[/quote] I'm not a B-52's fan, so I have extra reason not to like, oh, and the video sucked also. [:D]

[quote]Can't argue with that.[/quote] Finally. Something we can agree on [:D]

by **Mechi** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:55 am

Following the list:
Lotus
Imitation of life
Radio free Europe
Leaving New York
Man on the moon

And only cause there´s SHP.... is that enough reason to bash REM?????

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by **SwampThing** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:57 am

I'm a really huge fan of their I.R.S years. All my REM favorites are from that period.

I would hazard to guess that anyone who went to college in the 80's would agree.

by **Mechi** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:02 am

Well... I became an REM fan in the 90's but I like better their 80s stuff.
And it´s one of the first bands I ever liked and I know they are a little bit overrated but they have got really good stuff.
Same for U2... overrated sometimes but great band and their show was the best one I ever attended.

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by **SwampThing** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:09 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Mechi[/i]
 Well... I became an REM fan in the 90's but I like better their 80s stuff.
And it´s one of the first bands I ever liked and I know they are a little bit overrated but they have got really good stuff.
Same for U2... overrated sometimes but great band and their show was the best one I ever attended.

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~myirwin/JD_Montage2.jpg">

[/quote] I think from a listeners persective you always have too consider time and place. That's why you'll find so many REM and U2 fans that only dig the earlier stuff.

by **Bitter Almonds** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:15 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
 [quote][i]Originally posted by Peter Venkman[/i]
 Hey, I wouldn't mind being Carrot Top. Lucrative telephone deal, seeing the US on tour, your choice of prize college-girl poon. La dolce vita.

[i]"Sometimes I want to die in my bed,
All I can think about is "When are we leaving?",
Everytime I think of you I want a cigarette,
Man chooses himself, hero with a thousand faces,
It's the third night and the walls are shaking"[/i]--Tuxedomoon, "Desire"
[/quote]

Good point and you can add completely ripped to the list. Have you seen him lately? He must have gotten sick of getting heckled or something:

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I LIKED Carrot Top when he was lanky and skinny. Now, he's just scary and I attribute his weird behaviour to steroids[xx(]

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