by manekineko » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:47 am
[quote][i]Originally posted by WolverineSyr[/i]
<br>I totally agree with KYYX.
I also think that your definition of "new wave" may have something to do with age too. I hope this doesn't sound ageist, because that's really not my intention. I think people who came along later had a different view of the genre than people who may have been there at the beginning, and that's all fine. I think it is where the arguements begin though.
If you were a teenager, young adult, etc between 1976 & '78, and experienced punk first hand, I think you may have a more liberal view of what new wave is. For me, the transition from one to the other was seamless. Early new wave sounded almost like punk, power-pop was huge, and everyone was wearing a similar style of clothes (skinny ties, suit jackets, ripped t-shirts, etc.) It seemed like the more synth-based stuff snuck right in & sounded totally at home next to power-pop & uncatgorizable groups.
I think too, you have to understand the musical climate of 1976 - 80. "Album rock" (or what we call Classic rock now,) dominated the radio. It was all my peers listened to & it sucked (those 12 minute guitar solos were coma-inducing to me.) ANYTHING other than AOR was great, and anything that was radically different - like punk/power-pop/new wave, was embraced as "this new thing," "this new genre, or sound." Maybe that's where arguments about Talking Heads, Blondie, and the lot come from. They sure weren't album rock, they weren't really the punk we were used to, so what were they? New Wave.
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I totally agree about the definition of new wave being different depending on your age at the time. I was in high school in the late 1970's, so I experienced the whole arena rock scene first hand (~gag [xx(]~). I have a very broad definition of new wave to basically include anything that was a backlash against the excesses of arena rock, which had become a parody of itself with ten minute songs about mythology and medieval crap, self-indulgent masturbatory guitar solos, pretty boys with unbuttoned shirts and long frizzy hair, booze, drugs, and groupies. The punk and pop of Elvis Costello, Talking Heads, Blondie, Ramones, The Cars, Rockpile, The Clash, etc., was a breath of fresh air. (OK, I also loved the B-52's, who use synths). During the late 70's into early 80's, the synthesizer-based sound of new wave hadn't really taken off yet, at least not among my peers. It was more guitar-based. So for my age group (I'm 45--I was 20 in 1981), my definition of NW is more broad, not just limited to the synthesizer-type sound.
I think slightly younger people might have a different definition of new wave, because when they were coming of age, the term "new wave" was applied to a more synthesizer-based sound, with quirky fashions and lyrics. By the time the synthesizer-based sound became popular in the early 80's, I was already in my early 20's and was listening to my favorite guitar-based punk and power pop groups. The synthesizer-based NW was played on the commercial radio stations that were marketed to teenagers. They played Adam Ant, Kajagoogoo, Thompson Twins, Duran Duran, etc., and because the station actively marketed to teenagers, it didn't appeal much to people in my early 20's age group. Instead, I listened to community radio, which played NW and punk that appealed to a slightly more mature listener. I think if I had been in high school in the early to mid-80's, I would have been exposed to more synth-based NW. Instead, now I'm backfilling my music collection to include more synth music that I missed or ignored the first time around.
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