A Flock Of Seagulls fans -- LOOK HERE!

[DevoManiac101]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1

Only 9 left, I ordered mine last night, this is a rare treat!

[DevoManiac101]

There are now only 7 remaining, hurry and purchase one now before they are gone!

[DJ Phoenix]

If anyone gets 2 copies or wants to trade away one? i will make it worth your while,LMk...I want this cd and have MANY imports on CD to trade for it....

[IWantMyMTV]

Big Whoop it's a bootleg.

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[obs]

Wonder if some of the tracks are recorded from vinyl.

[DevoManiac101]

I just received my copy today, haven't opened it yet, but it's certainly not a bootleg and a real collectors item at that. Your loss not mine [:D]

[SomebodySomewhere]

$8.60 to ship an (already overpriced) CD within the country. On top of that, they don't combine shipping on multiple wins. Wow, what a bargain! I'll take 12!



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Zot - "Uranium"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1LbcpIcWGPM

[DJ Phoenix]

[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>$8.60 to ship an (already overpriced) CD within the country. On top of that, they don't combine shipping on multiple wins. Wow, what a bargain! I'll take 12!



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Zot - "Uranium"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1LbcpIcWGPM
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LOL, I couldn't agree with you more there bud. I'm beyond sick to death of seeing Ebayers and other site members ripping people off with their OVERPRICED shipping charges, especially if both parites live in the US. Do you know how much it costs to ship 1 cd to anywhere in the US? about $1.17...IF that, That's with Media mail.

Now, I dont wanna hear any bitching about" Well, thats what my price is. Too bad if you don't like it, then don't buy it" Trust me, I won't & neither will anyone else. You know what you're doing is wrong, and I guarantee you(for those of you who do it-Charge extremely overpriced S & H charges) You wouldn't like it if someone did it to you, so why do it to someone else?

Thats one of the MAIN reasons why i do not buy alot of OOP music from Ebay/Amazon/etc, the extremely ridiculously high shipping charges. I can understand if you live in the US and you're buying something from say, the Netherlands, and you want it shipped to there(US). Then we may be thinking $6-7-8 bucks tops. But, If I live in Vegas, and you live in Milwaukee, there's ABSOLUTELY no friggin reason for you to charge someone more than $2 bucks for shipping, none whatsoever. UNLESS, they say"I need it tomorrow", then you make the nec. arrangements.

And I dont want to hear anyone say" Well, you dont know what it costs...blah blah blah....". BS I do too. I trade (and have been now for over 6 years) oldschool '80s wrestling vhs/dvds, I ship them almost everyday, so I know how much it costs to send 2-3 tapes to someone. Under 3 bucks w/media mail. No Shipping for 1 cd, if bought in the states, and shipped there, costs over 4 bucks....NONE, ZERO ZILCH!!! UNLESS, as i said, you need it in a day or 3.

Because you want to try to "make it up on the back end", shouldn't be an issue here. If you're that worried about losing money for your precious "OOP" gem, then why are you selling it in the 1st place, if you know, you stand risk to get the lowest price possible in your auction? I report EVERY auction I see like this to Ebay, and they apparently do nothing about it(despite claiming they dont like you doing it). You only end up hurting yourself and the true music fans in the process.

Perfect example: 3 weeks ago, I went to used bookstore, and found a copy(my third) of a great book that I already had 2 copies of, for a buck. This SAME book, I spent a buck on...was almost 40 bucks(25 for the "book" and 15 for the "shipping"). Now, it is in no way some Frued, or Hemmingway, or even a rare Steven King(is there such a thing?), it was a crummy old book on former Chicago Bears QB Jim McMahon. It didnt even cost 20 bucks new i dont think and that was ober 20 yrs ago. But, dopey on ebay ahd to sell it for 40 bucks, then wondered why he didnt get a bid on it? Gee, i wonder?

See what I mean folks? dont be an asshole. You know charging more for the shipping is wrong(b/c you didnt like or get the price you wanted, so you felt you had to "make it up on the back end"), and, as i said earlier, if i did it to you, you'd blow a gasket. So......


KNOCK IT OFF!!!!

Major Kudos to "SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE" for speaking his mind(the truth) on this LONG overdue topic.

P.S. This "seller" has been reported to the right people.

[DevoManiac101]

Not a big deal to me, and the sound quality is superb!

I know one day this will go OOP and I will make my $8.60 back

[Darkwave]

This must be a bootleg.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WHEN-IN-ROME-THE-PR ... dZViewItem

[yipyipcoyote]

Crikey! You mean they can even fake bar codes now? What a shocker!!!

[DJ Phoenix]

Well, it's not a real or legit copy. The REAL WIR cd (where you most certainly CAN find "The Promise" on it) has a picture of three guys on the front, I've included a link. I play this same "The promise" song that supposedly hasn't been on cd until now, all the time.


http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/ ... rch=Search

[obs]

[i]it's certainly not a bootleg and a real collectors item at that.[/i]

Funny how this non-bootleg is only available from one dude on EBay.


[i]Thats one of the MAIN reasons why i do not buy alot of OOP music from Ebay/Amazon/etc, the extremely ridiculously high shipping charges.[/i]

Amazon Marketplace shipping rates are fixed -- $2.59 within US for a CD. Maybe it's a bit high, but you know the rate up front, so there's no need to pout about it. You just take it into consideration when deciding whether or not to buy, just like paying sales tax.



[i]The REAL WIR cd (where you most certainly CAN find "The Promise" on it) has a picture of three guys on the front, I've included a link. I play this same "The promise" song that supposedly hasn't been on cd until now, all the time.[/i]

I don't disagree that it's not a bootleg, but you may want to look at the tracklist.

<font size=1>If you think your signature is cool, then most likely, it is actually annoying.[/i]

[DJ Phoenix]

[quote][i]Originally posted by obs[/i]
<br>[i]it's certainly not a bootleg and a real collectors item at that.[/i]

Funny how this non-bootleg is only available from one dude on EBay.


[i]Thats one of the MAIN reasons why i do not buy alot of OOP music from Ebay/Amazon/etc, the extremely ridiculously high shipping charges.[/i]

Amazon Marketplace shipping rates are fixed -- $2.59 within US for a CD. Maybe it's a bit high, but you know the rate up front, so there's no need to pout about it. You just take it into consideration when deciding whether or not to buy, just like paying sales tax.



[i]The REAL WIR cd (where you most certainly CAN find "The Promise" on it) has a picture of three guys on the front, I've included a link. I play this same "The promise" song that supposedly hasn't been on cd until now, all the time.[/i]

I don't disagree that it's not a bootleg, but you may want to look at the tracklist.

<font size=1>If you think your signature is cool, then most likely, it is actually annoying.[/i]
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I didnt mean Amazon so much as i did Ebay. Amazon has some great S & H prices on their stuff, and i've never had any problems when dealing with them.

I know that SOME of the tracks on this *ahem* "real cd"[:D] aren't available on normal store bought commercial cd's. BUT, he/she/they give off the illusion that the song "The Promise" in general wasn't released, or wasn't available on cd until theirs, which is false.

Just a "heads up" for anyone thinking of buying this: DO NOT! The so called "unavailable tracks"? you can find on most P2P or download sites, both illegally and legally. It would save you ALOT of dough, and you can d/l them straight from there to disc.

There's no guarantee the sound quality on this cd is good, I have an extended version of "the Promise" I got years ago, and it sounds awesome. I get ALOT of people asking where i got it? I didnt steal it, I got it from a guy i used to trade music with.

[SomebodySomewhere]

I've been on ePay 10 years this July, been a part of somewhere between 7,000 and 10,000 transactions and have pretty much seen it at all. Between shilling and poor packaging and record jackets that arrive ruined because of poor packaging and records that arrive broken because of really poor packaging and "mint" records that look like they were used as a frisbee and greedy people who start the bidding at 10x what the going rate for something is and sellers who "forget" to send part of a large order (thinking you won't notice) and Nigerian electronics scams and spoof eBay/PayPal emails and general psychopaths who are way too messed up upstairs to ever get a real job, handling gouging is the least of my concerns, admittedly. Although ePay did recently institute a so-called policy that was supposed to deal with the gouging problem, they only bat an eye if it's a really egregious and obvious case of fee avoidance -- i.e., a 1 cent BIN on a computer with a $499.99 S&H fee. Fee avoidance was, of course, the only reason they're pretending like they care about the "community."

And, yes, since I sell on there from time to time, as well, I know what it costs (blah blah blah) to package something, and I don't expect to pay the same amount for shipping that the seller paid the post office or UPS. I don't even expect the seller to eat the listing and PayPal fees. But, in my experience, some of the worst gougers are the ones who send your item in a dilapidated pizza box, a manila envelope, a cut-up brown paper bag or whatever, and you find out the $5 handling you paid was so you could get a record with a creased to hell jacket or a CD with a smashed jewel case.

Luckily, I'm perfectly capable of weeding out most of the bottomfeeder sellers by reading the auction terms. You just got to learn how to decipher these things. Let's see here.


[quote]TERMS AND FEES:

Buyer Agrees: To Pay All Of The Following Charges Related To This Item. $7.00 (United Parcel Service And Shipping Materials In The United States Only, Insurance Is A MustI! insurance Is $1.60, Well Not Sell Without Insurance.[/quote]

Not only is it a must, it only costs $1.35 for an $18.99 item via the USPS. It's free via UPS. Please don't tell eBay about this, so they don't shut down my auctions, seeing as charging more for insurance than it costs me is against their policy.

[quote]Not Responsible For Lost or Damaged Shipments In The Mail.[/quote]

Unless you're not smart enough to file a PayPal claim, anyway. Good thing I don't accept PayPal. Especially good thing I don't demand payment from PayPal and refuse to accept any other form of payment where I actually wouldn't be responsible for lost or damaged shipments in the mail.

[quote]WE ONLY SHIP TO THE 48 UNITED STATES AND THE UNITED KINGDOM!

This means:

NO PO BOXES
NO AUSTRALIA
NO EUROPE - UNITED KINGDOM IS OK
NO HAWAII OR ALASKA
NO SOUTH AMERICA
NO THAILAND, SINGAPORE, MALAYSIA
NO JAPAN
NO NOWHERE OUTSIDE THE 48 STATES
NO CANADA[/quote]

NO ANTI-XENOPHOBES! P.S. The only reason I sell to the United Kingdom and not any of those other dirty, smelly foreign countries is because my mommy lives there.

[quote]We Charge Sales Tax in multiple states, Los Angeles County add 8.25% To The Total Amount Of (All Charges) I Pay Sales Tax On Every Item I Sell On eBay.[/quote]

As you may have noticed, I am hot shit because I pretend to have a presence in 34 out of 48 states. (I actually have a presence in 36 out of 50 states, but unfortunately, we can't include Alaska and Hawaii, because they are included in the list of said dirty, smelly foreign countries that I refuse to ship to.)

[quote]( SORRY WE DO NOT COMBINE SHIPPING CHARGES FOR MULTIPLE AUCTION WINNING'S[/quote]

Because we don't want you to buy more than one thing from us or give repeat business.

[quote]NO LOCAL MERCHANDISE PICK UP'S WILL BE PERMITTED, PLEASE DO NOT ASK )..[/quote]

Of course not, silly. How else could I gouge?

[quote]I will post proper feedback after you have received your item(s) and have posted your feedback[/quote]

So I can retaliate if you neg me.

[quote]I WILL NOT ACCEPT BIDS FROM BUYERS WITH EXCESSIVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK (I HAVE THE RIGHT TOO CANCEL YOUR BID(S) IF THIS IS YOUR STATUS, E-MAIL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU PLACE YOUR BID.) ..[/quote]

Speaking of excessive negative feedback, please ignore the fact that I have 7 negs. Like the one that says, "Liar! Misrepresented item auctioned. NASTIEST dealer I've ever dealth with!!!!" Or the one that says, "Seller is a liar! Stated item weights 20lbs actual weight 6.5lbs pads shiping!" And especially ignore the ones that say, "Paid20.shipping,item broken,actual shipping7.62,sent back,says they never got it," "For what I payed,expected much more. Box was all tore up and lamp look very used" and "very rude. nasty attitude. would not recomend to others." Yeah, ignore all those, thanks.

[quote]SORRY I HAVE A LOT FRIENDS WHO GET BURNED FROM DISHONEST OR CONFUSED BIDDERS, I DO NOT WISH TOO BE ONE OF THEM..[/quote]

No, sir. I wish too be the one doing the burning. Duh!

[quote]NEW USERS WITH ZERO FEEDBACK PLEASE CONTACT WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BEFORE YOU PLACE YOUR BID, THANK YOU[/quote]

Because, as you all know, I started on eBay with a feedback rating of 1.

[quote]Payment Must Be Received Within (5) days of the closing of the auction date.[/quote]

Also disregard the fact that PayPal gives you 7 days to pay. Pay me within 5. Or else. Speaking of the "or else"...

[quote]If payment is not received by that time eBay will be notified and Negative feedback will be posted on the 7th day ON ALL DEAD BEAT BIDDERS, No Exceptions.[/quote]

Don't expect to receive your item within 7 days from the date you paid me. If negative feedback is left after 7 days from time of payment, negative feedback will be returned on ALL PAYING BIDDERS. NO EXCEPTIONS.

[quote]Please Read Item(s) Description For All Shipping Fee(s). Buyer Please Do not use eBay(s) buyer Check Out, Seller will invoice all charges to the winning bidder of this auction, via email.[/quote]

This is so I can add additional hidden fees to the auction without eBay knowing about and/or collecting on them.

[quote]No Return Policy, All Sells Final.[/quote]

Because I sell crap bootlegs, misrepresent the condition of them, and package poorly so they're guaranteed to arrive to you damaged. All "Sells" Final. Hopefully, you, the unlucky buyer, are too stupid to realize that my "No Return Policy" goes right out the window because of my stubborn decision to only accept PayPal. Which, thankfully, has a very generous return policy on misrepresented crap bootlegs.

[quote]For More Information Please Read Item Description, Or Email Me.[/quote]

So I can ignore it.

[quote].. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE MY TERMS PLEASE DO NOT BID[/quote]

And why would you?

But DevoManiac is right. I'm sure gibson80sboy will pay $10,000 for this thing 5 years from now.

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Koo De Tah - "Too Young for Promises"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nV3244_tgco