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Postby eight6 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:31 am

So the German goalie admits he knew Lampard's goal was in, but felt his swift reaction to playing the ball as if it wasn't a goal influenced the referee to surmise it wasn't a goal. Gotta love the integrity.

Soccer: a game where the players are to a man, cheats; and where officiating is an afterthought. Just what is the appeal?
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:01 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>So the German goalie admits he knew Lampard's goal was in, but felt his swift reaction to playing the ball as if it wasn't a goal influenced the referee to surmise it wasn't a goal. Gotta love the integrity.
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Postby eight6 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:09 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>So the German goalie admits he knew Lampard's goal was in, but felt his swift reaction to playing the ball as if it wasn't a goal influenced the referee to surmise it wasn't a goal. Gotta love the integrity.
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Thinking back, the Germans were never very good at observing lines anyway.
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Postby coop41 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:25 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>So the German goalie admits he knew Lampard's goal was in, but felt his swift reaction to playing the ball as if it wasn't a goal influenced the referee to surmise it wasn't a goal. Gotta love the integrity.

Soccer: a game where the players are to a man, cheats; and where officiating is an afterthought. Just what is the appeal?
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c'mon, you are going to tell me no hockey goalie ever tried to swipe one back across the line and out of the net? Stealing signs in baseball? Steroids? The NBA officiating is equally as bad. Heck, football has instant replay but they can't even use it on half the calls!

I like your argument for more referees though, it would be a welcome addition. And FIFA is sorry now so everyone can relax. And what is the appeal??? Have you not read about people being killed for watching games, letting in goals, crying during the games??????
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Postby zill » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:27 am

Don't worry, Prima-dona's Argies will take care of the Germans.

The English are probably relieved because the controversy gives them an "out". "We lost our momentum after the disallowed goal...otherwise the game would have had a different outcome".
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Postby eight6 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:03 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>So the German goalie admits he knew Lampard's goal was in, but felt his swift reaction to playing the ball as if it wasn't a goal influenced the referee to surmise it wasn't a goal. Gotta love the integrity.

Soccer: a game where the players are to a man, cheats; and where officiating is an afterthought. Just what is the appeal?
[/quote]

c'mon, you are going to tell me no hockey goalie ever tried to swipe one back across the line and out of the net? Stealing signs in baseball? Steroids? The NBA officiating is equally as bad. Heck, football has instant replay but they can't even use it on half the calls!

I like your argument for more referees though, it would be a welcome addition. And FIFA is sorry now so everyone can relax. And what is the appeal??? Have you not read about people being killed for watching games, letting in goals, crying during the games??????
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The open admission of the dishonesty doesn't look good on the game. You're right in your examples, but I can't recall similar admissions of dishonesty in other sports.
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Postby coop41 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:02 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>So the German goalie admits he knew Lampard's goal was in, but felt his swift reaction to playing the ball as if it wasn't a goal influenced the referee to surmise it wasn't a goal. Gotta love the integrity.

Soccer: a game where the players are to a man, cheats; and where officiating is an afterthought. Just what is the appeal?
[/quote]

c'mon, you are going to tell me no hockey goalie ever tried to swipe one back across the line and out of the net? Stealing signs in baseball? Steroids? The NBA officiating is equally as bad. Heck, football has instant replay but they can't even use it on half the calls!

I like your argument for more referees though, it would be a welcome addition. And FIFA is sorry now so everyone can relax. And what is the appeal??? Have you not read about people being killed for watching games, letting in goals, crying during the games??????
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The open admission of the dishonesty doesn't look good on the game. You're right in your examples, but I can't recall similar admissions of dishonesty in other sports.
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Didn't Tiger Woods admit to cheating?
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Postby SallyLightfoot » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:30 am

Tiger Woods cheated on his wife, not his score-card.
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Postby eight6 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:59 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]

Didn't Tiger Woods admit to cheating?
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Golfers are a bit unique in that, for the most part, they self police...at least on the course. I've seen a few high profile players do things like report that they grounded their club in sand traps, etc.

If a bad call goes in your favor, I guess that is part of the human element of sport. Openly discussing it afterward only embarrasses the officials, the sport and your team.
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Postby coop41 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:50 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]

Didn't Tiger Woods admit to cheating?
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Golfers are a bit unique in that, for the most part, they self police...at least on the course. I've seen a few high profile players do things like report that they grounded their club in sand traps, etc.

If a bad call goes in your favor, I guess that is part of the human element of sport. Openly discussing it afterward only embarrasses the officials, the sport and your team.
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Agreed. I think he is accurate however in his assesment that if he acts like it's a goal it would have been a goal. If he acts like it didn't, it wasn't, and to be quite truthful, acting is a part of every sport and I commend him for thinking so quickly if he really did. He should have just kept it quiet.
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Postby coop41 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:58 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]
<br>Tiger Woods cheated on his wife, not his score-card.
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I guess I better pay closer attention when watching TMZ
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Postby eight6 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:17 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]

Didn't Tiger Woods admit to cheating?
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Golfers are a bit unique in that, for the most part, they self police...at least on the course. I've seen a few high profile players do things like report that they grounded their club in sand traps, etc.

If a bad call goes in your favor, I guess that is part of the human element of sport. Openly discussing it afterward only embarrasses the officials, the sport and your team.
[/quote]

Agreed. I think he is accurate however in his assesment that if he acts like it's a goal it would have been a goal. If he acts like it didn't, it wasn't, and to be quite truthful, acting is a part of every sport and I commend him for thinking so quickly if he really did. He should have just kept it quiet.
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His rationale speaks volumes for the perceived level of competence footballers see in the sport's officials. On the up side, they pull some major league ass...almost as good as F1 drivers.
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Postby coop41 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:11 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]

Didn't Tiger Woods admit to cheating?
[/quote]

Golfers are a bit unique in that, for the most part, they self police...at least on the course. I've seen a few high profile players do things like report that they grounded their club in sand traps, etc.

If a bad call goes in your favor, I guess that is part of the human element of sport. Openly discussing it afterward only embarrasses the officials, the sport and your team.
[/quote]

Agreed. I think he is accurate however in his assesment that if he acts like it's a goal it would have been a goal. If he acts like it didn't, it wasn't, and to be quite truthful, acting is a part of every sport and I commend him for thinking so quickly if he really did. He should have just kept it quiet.
[/quote]

His rationale speaks volumes for the perceived level of competence footballers see in the sport's officials. On the up side, they pull some major league ass...almost as good as F1 drivers.
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:27 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>On the up side, they pull some major league ass...almost as good as F1 drivers.
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Um, yeah.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3972 ... f-all-time
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Postby eight6 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:54 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>On the up side, they pull some major league ass...almost as good as F1 drivers.
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without question!
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Um, yeah.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3972 ... f-all-time
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Tough review...but I soldiered through all 50.
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