Is all new wave made in 1990 or later?

[mimzy]

Automatically next wave? Like would 'Friday I'm In Love' or 'I Touch Myself' be classed as next wave just because it wasn't made in the eighties?

Would a new wave band that had absolutely no grunge/90s alt influence but was from 1990 or later still be next wave?

[KYYX4ever]

Maybe it's just semantics, but after 1986-ish, it's NOT new wave anymore. Bands and songs after that were more "alternative", "indie", "next wave", or whatever label one likes.

New wave describes a specific genre from a specific era (late 70s-early 80s). But after mainstream artists jumped the shark (heh, "jumped the shark", we used to talk about this here on the NWO), and there was a general co-opting of the synth sound in Top 40 music, it was no longer new wave. Even artists that were firmly "new wave"--B52s, Duran, Depeche, etc.--evolved into a newer sound, NOT new wave any longer.

There's a ton of good "next wave" stuff out there, by bands that had nothing to do with new wave from the 80s EXCEPT for their obvious influences and style. I listen to Interpol, the Bravery, the Faint, She Wants Revenge, etc., and it's obvious that those bands sat around listening to a lot of Echo or Joy Division or Cure back in the day, but these bands are NOW. NOT new wave.
just my 2 c. !

[newwavepopman]

I guess this only means that one can call Kylie Minogue's material from 2000 to her more recent material from 2011 Next Wave then? Funny because when I saw her for the very first time locally back in April there were more fans dressed up Punk and New Wave at the show that I really didn't expect to see.Even Kylie herself in between costum changes she dressed the part herself,and there were many in her band that also looked the part too.

There was a ton of her dancers dressed up in red like Kraftwerk used to on The Man Machine album,and they even danced like them.And they have been doing this ever since the album Fever came out with Can't Get You Out Of My Head.

Now onto the person who said that The Pet Shop Boys were not New Wave.Please Go to Wikipedia and look at what their genre lists them as.You will see them listed as New Wave,Synthpop,and as House. I even saw an interview years ago with both Neil and the other guy,and they both admitted that there style was and is New Wave.

Lastly,there were no Kylie haters at her concert when I went to see her that laughed at her and her band for changing her style of music and being New Wave.

[i_like_lectric_motors]

[quote][i]Originally posted by newwavepopman[/i]


Now onto the person who said that The Pet Shop Boys were not New Wave.Please Go to Wikipedia and look at what their genre lists them as.You will see them listed as New Wave,Synthpop,and as House. I even saw an interview years ago with both Neil and the other guy,and they both admitted that there style was and is New Wave.

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They never were and never will be new wave.

Also, you might want to check wikipedia again.

[ghosty]

I agree pretty much with everything KYYX4ever writes here. New Wave is locked into a time and a place in history.

I'm not fond of the term "Next Wave" myself but such is life. I see the state of Alternative music from 2000-2009 as just a reaction to the 90's. I'm sure there'll be a lot of Indie stuff coming soon that ditches any 80's influence at all as a reaction to the 00's.

Come to think of it, I'm not crazy about the word Indie either. If you wanna get technical about it, Elvis Presley has more Indie cred than nearly all of the Indie bands today simply because he started out on the Sun label without the benefit of Pitchfork singing his praises, a lot of hyperventilating bloggers spreading the word, and some carefully placed songs in i-Phone commercials.

I'm fine with the word Alternative as in "an alternative to the Top 40" but somewhere in the early 2000' it became a bad word.

Alright, I'll shut up now and stop drinking.

[djcraig]

One thing I hate about definitions is that they are by nature, limiting.
And one of the greatest things about New Wave itself was it's limitlessness and inability put in a tidy box. Even a "metal" band like The Cult got played right alongside Duran Duran, Rockabilly, Goth or what have you...

It was linked to a general period of time but any attempt to specifically define that results in an arbitrary date chosen by the subjective opinion of the interpreter.



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[AS Swanski]

I don't even know if new wave was a musical genre. It was more like a group of musicians with a common attitude: people who wanted to explore musical boundaries, experiment with style and image, expressing themselves in an individual way without the intention to become commercially successful (though the latter didn't rule out that commercial success became the main target for some artists as their careers proceeded).

It was basically the logical follow-up to the punk movement from 1976, but much more diverse. Therefore, it was linked to a period of time (late 1970s-mid 1980s) but obviously, there are still musicians who live by the above principles. Gosh, I'm one myself But because new wave was locked into a time and place in history, younger artists who are active now cannot be called new wave, even if they take their inspiration from the early 1980s.

Well, that's what I think...