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New Wave jumped the shark when....

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New Wave jumped the shark when....

Postby Dave » Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:16 am

On the history page, Mike defines the new wave era as 1979-1986 and asserts it was displaced by industrial, acid and grunge.
http://www.nwoutpost.com/nwhist.html

So when did you know new wave was done?

New Wave jumped the shark when...

The curtain came down on LiveAid (1985, it definately was a watershed event)
MTV played more rap than new wave (?)
Cars released Heartbeat City (1984)
A Flock of Seagulls ran out of hairspray (1986)
Nirvana gave birth to grunge (1987)
Never (nah, pretty sure it died at some point)
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Postby sirzap » Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:32 am

When Z-100 & WPLJ started playing the following songs on rotation (3+ years after hearing them on 'LIR)
1)Relax
2)West End Girls
3)Send Me An Angel
4)Bizzare Love Triangle
5)U Spin Me Round
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Postby British » Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:28 pm

Actually, Nirvana killed an even bigger foe: heavy metal. It seems the way of popular music(from like '80 or so) started at new wave, moved to heavy metal, and then went onto grunge, w/ Nirvana.
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Postby Polly » Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:53 pm

For me, personally, the innocence of the era ended when we lost Ricky Wilson.
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Postby fabfourever » Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:42 pm

Actualy New Wave did not end that early.It wasn't until the Grunge movement replaced the New Wave movement,and by 1991 I would say that was the year that New Wave died,at least bigtime it did.And what I mean by that is,that there was still some new bands
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Postby fabfourever » Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:43 pm

Actualy New Wave did not end that early.It wasn't until the Grunge movement replaced the New Wave movement,and by 1991 I would say that was the year that New Wave died,at least bigtime it did.And what I mean by that is,that there was still some new bands
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Postby 1981baby » Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:48 pm

what's your take everyone though on the emergence of rem and the move towards "jangle rock" which is more or less the forefather of 90's alternative rock? people usually point to their ascension as a turning point.
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Postby Polly » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:11 am

I agree Grunge killed everything & nothing good came out of it. New wave was officially dead when Kurt Cobain screamed that 'smells like teen ass' song. MY guilty pleasure now is going into all the used CD shops & seeing piles & piles of crap grunge CDs s
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Postby unguarded moment » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:40 am

For Me The 90's marked the Turning Point.
I would say that the NY/NJ "New Wave" Club Scene / music started to change in '87/88 or so, but there was still "good" music that lingered on thru the next couple of years.
Those in their early 20's durin
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:44 am

I don't know. I really think it stopped being a definitive "movement" around the mid-80s timeframe. After that, the number of artists and hits trailed off tremendously. There were certainly new wave musicians and alterno folks around during the late 80s,
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Postby Momotaro » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:04 am

This is kind of a loaded question, really....I think 'new wave' had a beginning and end, but it never really jumped the shark. I mean, the phrase 'jumped the shark' suggests that it became a parody of itself, over-the-top, stupid.

I don't think that
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Postby Plata66 » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:46 am

When it became mainstream, and no talent top twenty tape loop bands started scoring.You know the ones that can't play any instruments but was up front in the lime light with there big hair and no talent.
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Postby tglopez » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:54 pm

[quote]MY guilty pleasure now is going into all the used CD shops & seeing piles & piles of crap grunge CDs selling in the barging bins for
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:17 am

Ditto re grunge. It carried me through the early 90s along with electronic - kinda weird combo but not for someone who loved Heaven 17 right next to Sex Pistols. What were you listening to in the 90s if not some good hard alt rock? Post-grunge, rap-metal.
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Postby Alvy » Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:30 pm

I think New Wave jumped the Shark when Billy Joel, Linda Ronstadt, and Alice Cooper tried to put out New Wave albums. (Glass Houses, Mad Love, and Flush the Fashion, respectively).

Grunge killed everythign, by the way. Now, the airwaves are innundate
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