World War III

[stella]

"Us, and them And after all we're only ordinary men."

Your not one of us,
Your not one of us,
Your not one of us,
They're just trouble makers
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
and they smell bad too
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
Not like me and you

[edisonoside]

I admire Patriotic people who stand by their country and support their country, I take my hat off to you. This country should be very honored & lucky to have people like that. This present government should have great appreciation for the likes of you and should count themselves lucky to have such honorable citizens. We should respect & not take advantage of individuals like you. We should not take our frustrations out on you and get into arguments that lead us nowhere. For that I am deeply angered at those in power for turning us against ourselves. Do those in power seem concerned over this???

[NuWaveRx]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>"Us, and them And after all we're only ordinary men."

Your not one of us,
Your not one of us,
Your not one of us,
They're just trouble makers
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
and they smell bad too
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
Not like me and you




[/quote]


How about an answer to my questions above, without resorting to verse if possible?

[djcraig]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>"Us, and them And after all we're only ordinary men."

Your not one of us,
Your not one of us,
Your not one of us,
They're just trouble makers
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
and they smell bad too
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
They're not one of us
Not like me and you
[/quote]

[b]Well stated and eloquent but not nearly as thought provoking and insightful as:[/b]


[i]"Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord why dont we?

Ebony, ivory living in perfect harmony
Ebony, ivory, ooh

We all know that people are the same where ever we go
There is good and bad in everyone,
We learn to live, we learn to give
Each other what we need to survive together alive."[/i]


[b]And now the missing verse: [i][/b]

"Unless of course you're an Islamo-Nazi in which case feel free to go ahead and kill anyone not in agreement with you."[/i]


Leave it to Paul and Stevie to show us the way.[:D]

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<a href="http://www.djcraig.net/">DJ Craig</a>

[hutter]

[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
And the mayor packs it in. The moral of the story is, if you can't get enough people to drink your kool-aid, throw a tantrum and run. Is that called "growing a pair"?
[/quote]
I was going to keep my nose out of this site, but thanks to one of the more level headed members here I took another look at your ill informed brand of intellectual rantings. So...since I have nothing to lose, I may as well throw pearls before swine before you once again bore me to tears.

Here are some cold hard facts, Einstein: Israel & Bush just brought the inevitable social conflict in the middle east to a head, and did so before the enemy of civilization was able to build/buy/steal technology and weapons that would have given them the destructive power to kill millions. Say what you will about W (Lord knows I have) but this was the only call he could make.

The problem is that many folks tend to think of muslims as normal, rational human beings who only desire parity with the global community. That is not the case at all. Their reason for being, and understanding of good and evil is based solely on their faith, and not on civil law, which most westerners simply cannot relate to at all. We are viewed by the true belivers of Islam through the prism of death or assimilation. Period.

There is no diplomatic middle ground, and one form of civilization will end up being suppressed by the other before there can be real peace between them. End of story. Hate Israel as much as you might, but they have been at the point of a battle that has been relentlessly coming to a theater near you since Mohammad first formulated his plan for an orderly society where he calls the shots.

Considering the impact of Islam on civilization over the past century, I'm starting to think that the terrorists are not Islamic extremists at all. They represent the true core of Islamic belief, and the Muslims who live their lives in peace with the infidels, raise their families, and refuse to speak out against the terrorists are just weak minded Muslims who suffer from the temptations of western society.

The problems facing the world today were set in motion by the "prophet" who invented the religion of "peace" (heh), and neither the Jews, nor George Bush have had a thing to do with it. If anything, they popped the pimple before it could grow into a destructive global infection that moves too fast to cure. Some days I feel that maybe the Jews and George Bush waited too long.

Civilization either grows a pair of balls, and takes painfull steps to end the problem now, or stand in awe of the destructive power of a global killer later.

Your turn, braniac.

[Bitter Almonds]

<p align="justify">Riiiiight, because we know <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/27/fbi.spy/"><font color="red">[b]Israel has the best interests for the US in mind[/b]</font></a>.

[hutter]

[quote][i]Originally posted by XXX[/i]
<br><p align="justify">Riiiiight, because we know <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/27/fbi.spy/"><font color="red">[b]Israel has the best interests for the US in mind[/b]</font></a>.
[/quote]
That's the best you've got? Man...I can't believe I'm even acknowledging your existence. BTW, junior, I was talking to beatschool, not your anarchy endorsing ass.

[Bitter Almonds]

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by XXX[/i]
<br><p align="justify">Riiiiight, because we know <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/27/fbi.spy/"><font color="red">[b]Israel has the best interests for the US in mind[/b]</font></a>.
[/quote]
That's the best you've got? Man...I can't believe I'm even acknowledging your existence. BTW, junior, I was talking to beatschool, not your anarchy endorsing ass.
[/quote]

<p align="justify">You are talking to nobody in specific, huffer. Everyone pretty much knows you are a nut. [i]That's all I got[/i]?! What have YOU got for us, huffer? Zilch. Show a specific instance where Hezbollah and Hamas have been caught in the United States plotting against us?

[hutter]

Your useless ass should be deported. It's unbelievable how a jackass like yourself is allowed to live here when you have shown time and time again to be a America hating misogonist. I hear that they're recruiting future dead bodies for Hezbollah. Go to it, junior. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Bitter Almonds]

<font size=10><B>BWAHahahAHAHAhHAHAhaH[/b]</font>


nutter strikes again[:D]


[i]edit: I had to edit out a couple of "ha"s in there

[Bitter Almonds]

<p align="justify">Oh, and, by the way, I did not know that being caught spying TWICE in high-ranking office was something you'd overlook as a serious offense. Then again, you must be huffing something pretty strong to not see this is the kind of thing others have been EXECUTED for in the US.

[beatschool]

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
And the mayor packs it in. The moral of the story is, if you can't get enough people to drink your kool-aid, throw a tantrum and run. Is that called "growing a pair"?
[/quote]
I was going to keep my nose out of this site, but thanks to one of the more level headed members here I took another look at your ill informed brand of intellectual rantings. So...since I have nothing to lose, I may as well throw pearls before swine before you once again bore me to tears.

Here are some cold hard facts, Einstein: Israel & Bush just brought the inevitable social conflict in the middle east to a head, and did so before the enemy of civilization was able to build/buy/steal technology and weapons that would have given them the destructive power to kill millions. Say what you will about W (Lord knows I have) but this was the only call he could make.

The problem is that many folks tend to think of muslims as normal, rational human beings who only desire parity with the global community. That is not the case at all. Their reason for being, and understanding of good and evil is based solely on their faith, and not on civil law, which most westerners simply cannot relate to at all. We are viewed by the true belivers of Islam through the prism of death or assimilation. Period.

There is no diplomatic middle ground, and one form of civilization will end up being suppressed by the other before there can be real peace between them. End of story. Hate Israel as much as you might, but they have been at the point of a battle that has been relentlessly coming to a theater near you since Mohammad first formulated his plan for an orderly society where he calls the shots.

Considering the impact of Islam on civilization over the past century, I'm starting to think that the terrorists are not Islamic extremists at all. They represent the true core of Islamic belief, and the Muslims who live their lives in peace with the infidels, raise their families, and refuse to speak out against the terrorists are just weak minded Muslims who suffer from the temptations of western society.

The problems facing the world today were set in motion by the "prophet" who invented the religion of "peace" (heh), and neither the Jews, nor George Bush have had a thing to do with it. If anything, they popped the pimple before it could grow into a destructive global infection that moves too fast to cure. Some days I feel that maybe the Jews and George Bush waited too long.

Civilization either grows a pair of balls, and takes painfull steps to end the problem now, or stand in awe of the destructive power of a global killer later.

Your turn, braniac.
[/quote]

Unless I've developed amnesia, I haven't criticized Israel in any post, nor have I defended Islam. If anything, I have a huge problem with Islam and its retarded subjugation of women and truth, but I have that problem with EVERY religion. My stance is not relative to who I am criticizing. The Christian Right in the US would be every bit as evil as the Moslem fundys if they were allowed to be. I would love to come up with an answer that preserves Israel's right to exist while simultaneously satisfying the Arab world, but I can't, and as far as I know, noone has.

I am 100% for going to war with the crooks controlling the Middle East, but what I am not for is how our administration has lied time and time again over WHY we are at war. The ever-changing excuses, the covering of asses when they are proven to lie. If Bush had just come out and said "Iran/q has a government that needs to be replaced because they are a bunch of human rights violating fuckwads", I'd be for it. Having a plan that worked would also be something I'd require. Instead, the American public was sold a BS bill of goods that the rest of the world saw for what it was, a complete sham. If we had conducted this "War on Terror" with integrity and honesty, we would have the world's support (excluding the dudes we were going after, of course). If we had addressed the inequities of wealth distribution while we were attacking, we'd be seen as heroes. Instead, Dubya serves at the mercy of Big Oil interests around the world, keeping the rich rich and further fucking the poor. Look at the list of fuckwads getting rich off of Iraq. A Who's Who of white collar crooks.

Hutter, I've generally avoided criticizing your position, what I criticize is you. How you talk down to anyone that disagrees with you while you claim to hold some level of intellectual superiority. Check Swampy's sig if you need a refresher on how you think of the rest of us. I talk down to others as much as the next guy, but I don't claim that I'm smarter than everyone else, if anything, I'm flawed and trying to learn from every waking moment. You're a macho blowhard with great taste in music and an inflated view of self. That's it. "Grow a pair". That's original. Are you one of these morons that tells everyone to "cowboy up" too? Macho blathering. Yawn. Wake me when the veins in your forehead have receded.

[beatschool]

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>Put your money where your mouth is.
[/quote]

Last time I checked, enlistment quotas for the US Army were down considerably. Maybe you should follow your own advice and enlist. You've got a lot of experience already, so you'd also save the US taxpayers a chunk of change with training. Unless you don't really believe in the position you're supporting. I'm just saying.

[beatschool]

I knew the "America Hater" line would be pulled out at some point. Jimbo liked that line too. Straight out of the "Hannity's Talking Points for Dummies" handbook.

[Bitter Almonds]

<p align="justify">Last I checked, I <3 teh womyns too. I'm not a misogonist (sic), I swaer![:D]