World War III

[KYYX4ever]

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>The problem is that many folks tend to think of muslims as normal, rational human beings who only desire parity with the global community. That is not the case at all. Their reason for being, and understanding of good and evil is based solely on their faith, and not on civil law, which most westerners simply cannot relate to at all. We are viewed by the true belivers of Islam through the prism of death or assimilation. Period.
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I respectfully disagree. the majority of "normal" muslims are rational. It's the fundamentalists--the ones most likely to lean toward terrorism or terrorist-type activities--that give them all a bad name. From the time I spent in the Middle East (archeological digs in Jordan and a bit in Lebanon), I found them to be generally "normal" and rational indeed. Every society has their fundamentalists, however, that threaten to speak for all its citizens. We need to keep this in mind.

[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
<br>I have a huge problem with Islam and its retarded subjugation of women and truth, but I have that problem with EVERY religion. My stance is not relative to who I am criticizing. The Christian Right in the US would be every bit as evil as the Moslem fundys if they were allowed to be.[/quote]

Yes. Altho I was just saying that most muslims are "normal" (whatever that means), this is, unfortunately, true. I share this problem too--"retarded subjugation of women and truth" indeed.

[stella]

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How about an answer to my questions above, without resorting to verse if possible?
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Because talking with people who agree with you is like jogging in place.

[NuWaveRx]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
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How about an answer to my questions above, without resorting to verse if possible?
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Because talking with people who agree with you is like jogging in place.
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So in other words you come here solely to incite threads or messages that usually degenerate into unnecessary name calling and derogagtory remarks--which is your purpose, I gather. I suppose that falls under the definiton of "troll" as I understand it. Thank you for the clarification.

[stella]

Whatever, stone me to my sole. stone me just like rock and roll, stone me. You are a mod throw me out. Whan you can talk to the wall and play association games and talk about what you had for dinner last night till hell freezes over.

[MARV]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Whatever, stone me to my sole. stone me just like rock and roll, stone me. You are a mod throw me out. Whan you can talk to the wall and play association games and talk about what you had for dinner last night till hell freezes over.[/quote]

Stella, why are you here? You're obviously so miserable and resentful. And you never engage in any music discussion. What do you get out of this place? Why do you keep coming back? You're like that one person at the party who does'nt fit in but stays and tries to make everyone else miserable. Do [b]you[/b] think you should post here? For what?

<a href="http://www.worldwildlife.org/cetaceans/index.cfm">I dig whales.</a>

[stella]

Marvy why are you so on the rag? I'm not miserable but I am somewhat resentful of the way the planet is run. I love music but in the last few years the world situation has just flat out eclipsed everything else for me. The unfairness, the pain and grief, the children and my inability to do anything about it have just done in my more fun side. You all bring it out. You all explain it to me, help me understand, show me the why and how of it.

[living in shadow]

Wow, this is quite a thread.

To Stella:

There are 2 kinds of people on this planet: those who can and those who can't, and they're both right. Instead of wallowing in despair, why not get out and make a difference? You'll feel better and the world will be better for your efforts.

[MARV]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Marvy why are you so on the rag? I'm not miserable but I am somewhat resentful of the way the planet is run. I love music but in the last few years the world situation has just flat out eclipsed everything else for me. The unfairness, the pain and grief, the children and my inability to do anything about it have just done in my more fun side. You all bring it out. You all explain it to me, help me understand, show me the why and how of it.
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Wow, sorry you're so disgruntled. I'm not sure you'll get what you're looking for here but these may be some good places to start:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... py&spell=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism

<a href="http://www.worldwildlife.org/cetaceans/index.cfm">I dig whales.</a>

[dcs84]

I'm in a quandary, on the one hand Israel is a beautiful sun-soaked paradise full of well meaning individuals whose only motivation is peace, and prosperity for all. On the other hand we have the Islamic militants who have been wronged over the centuries, and their sole desire is to link arms with their protagonists and over sweet tea and flat bread broker a fair and lasting peace. Who to support, hmmmmmmm.

[Mechi]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Marvy why are you so on the rag? I'm not miserable but I am somewhat resentful of the way the planet is run. I love music but in the last few years the world situation has just flat out eclipsed everything else for me. The unfairness, the pain and grief, the children and my inability to do anything about it have just done in my more fun side. You all bring it out. You all explain it to me, help me understand, show me the why and how of it.
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Yes, you are so worried about the world... so you go and give your support to Hezbollah???
Be serious, if you would care about the world, you wouldn't be supporting any terrorist group.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/mechigc

[stella]

That's kind of a broad statement Mechi. What's the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist? It's been reported that Hezbollah is the group rebuilding infrastructure, delivering food and supplies, moving people out of harms way and running hospitals. How does that fit in with your idea of terrorist?

[living in shadow]

[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>That's kind of a broad statement Mechi. What's the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist? It's been reported that Hezbollah is the group rebuilding infrastructure, delivering food and supplies, moving people out of harms way and running hospitals. How does that fit in with your idea of terrorist?
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Big deal about Hezbollah. I seem to remember Al Capone did the same thing during the Depression with the soup kitchens etc., but I don't see him honored for his humanitarian efforts. It's a cheap veil to mask their true raison d'etre. They are a terrorist organization, plain and simple.

I'm surprised somebody of your intellect can't see that.

[stella]

[quote][i]Originally posted by living in shadow[/i]
<br>Wow, this is quite a thread.

To Stella:

There are 2 kinds of people on this planet: those who can and those who can't, and they're both right. Instead of wallowing in despair, why not get out and make a difference? You'll feel better and the world will be better for your efforts.
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I absolutely tried this. I did 15 years of volunteer work in my community. When corporate interests wanted to place a trash burning 200 MW power plant here I went to Sacramento and spent 10 years arguing before the CEC as a volunteer. I won, I got the cleanest, prettiest, safest, plant imaginable. I got 49 million dollars in mitigation and founded the Crockett Community Foundation. Now I get to watch people fight over money, stab each other in the back, steal, cheat, embezzle, and lie, it's amazing. One by one people I respected turned into green monsters. I made a difference alright.

I got a peak at how things work, of the power of money, back room deals and the endless bait and switch games that give us crappy everything. If you plant a tree someone will cut it down. If you fund a computer lab someone will steal the computers. Now I just give money to people who ask me for it on the street.

As for Hezbollah all can I say is "nobody's right when everybody's wrong. Some people speaking their minds, getting so much resistance from behind.

[djcraig]

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by stella[/i]
<br>Whatever, stone me to my sole. stone me just like rock and roll, stone me. You are a mod throw me out. Whan you can talk to the wall and play association games and talk about what you had for dinner last night till hell freezes over.[/quote]

Stella, why are you here? You're obviously so miserable and resentful. And you never engage in any music discussion. What do you get out of this place? Why do you keep coming back? You're like that one person at the party who does'nt fit in but stays and tries to make everyone else miserable. Do [b]you[/b] think you should post here? For what?
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Consider Stella NWO's own version of Ashton Kutcher.

If you fall for her nonsensical rhetoric, allow yourself to take her seriously and get sucked into actually attempting to have a logical discussion with her then <big><big><B>
YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED!</B></B></big>

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